Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

AP: Bin Laden is trying to appeal to young Arabs, experts say

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:18 PM
Original message
AP: Bin Laden is trying to appeal to young Arabs, experts say
Bin Laden is trying to appeal to young Arabs, experts say

By Salah Nasrawi
ASSOCIATED PRESS

October 31, 2004

CAIRO, Egypt – Osama bin Laden's new videotape clearly targets U.S. voters days before an extraordinarily tight presidential election, but it also courts another constituency: young Arabs who are frustrated and disenchanted but not committed to radical Islam.

Al-Qaeda's leader already has on his side many extremists, who made it clear in remarks posted yesterday on Islamic Web sites that they were elated to see him looking healthy and in control of the cause.

But analysts say bin Laden is trying to broaden his base and that his words were chosen for more secular young Muslims as well as Americans.

(snip)

On the tape, parts of which were aired Friday by the Arabic TV network Al-Jazeera, bin Laden dropped the usual religious rhetoric and historical references in favor of plain language.


More..

Find this article at:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20041031/news_1n31binladen.html

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:22 PM
Response to Original message
1. Gee, just think, If we would have caught and killed him after the invasion
of Afganistan, he wouldn't be out there now recruiting more followers. And who's fault is that?

George, oh George. You are such a fuck up that you incompetence will haunt this country for generations.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. someone else would have..
you have to eliminate the conditions that result in these young men and woman believing that they will be rewarded by joining the crusade...maybe we should start in our own country.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
2. the same in any country
rich old men get the uneducated young to fight their wars. nothing new here..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:23 PM
Response to Original message
3. This would mean...
that in our medias frenzy to air the video, they helped bin Laden to recruit more terrorist.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
charlyvi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:25 PM
Response to Original message
4. OBL doesn't need to recruit....
Shrub is doing his recruiting for him. All OBL needs to do is make sure Shrub is re-selected, then sit back and take in applications!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
5. I wonder how long the "experts" studied on it to figure this out? nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #5
16. They clearly must have information we do not
to reach such a startling conclusion. They've surely earned their pay on this one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyeswideoopen Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:28 PM
Response to Original message
7. OBL TAPE IS A FAKE !
I just got this news nugget from Infowars:

The new Video IS A FAKE !!!!!

Osama Bin Laden is lefthanded - see FBI website: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm

In the Video he is constantly using his RIGHT hand!!!

Well done George, but you don't fool us


Fränk Lehnen


I went searching for a copy of the video and found a brief clip of it on MSNBC and guess what? The guy uses his right hand!

http://video.msn.com/video/p.htm?prepend=62378dec-21db-4afa-8f76-d68b6de855d6,919edacc-e319-4e0e-9e3c-fe95ad9901c1,e613af9a-776d-479c-93b4-d37a5667449b,799d30a7-724f-45a3-a62c-c6c8ca634ff6&autostart=0&menu=News&menuItem=NBC%20News

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:34 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Isn't that because his left hand has been injured?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. I noticed his left arm was held oddly compared to the right arm, more
at an angle to his body compared to his right arm. And he only moved the fingers of his left hand, not his left arm, in the few bits of tape I saw on TV, FWIW. He may only have limited use of his left arm as a result of an injury incurred in Afghanistan. His appearance on previous tapes, the way he carried himself and the seeming immobility of his left arm, led people to surmise he had been injured during the bombing.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
canuckforpeace Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. I thought Muslims don't use their left hands even if they're left-handed
In their culture the left hand is considered unclean.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eyeswideoopen Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:33 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. Left Hand
They don't use the left hand to eat because it is considered unclean (you don't want to know why). I don't think that prohibition is across the board on everything though but I could be wrong.

I thought I remembered his right arm being injured. Didn't he hold it with his left hand in the first video?

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #7
14. The tape is real. Osama is alive, not dead. Alive. (nt)
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 06:06 PM by w4rma
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. I agree. I've always thought Bin Laden
was alive, because I've never had any reason to think that he was not. No body, no head on a stick being paraded around.

I think he plays the US for a fool, to tell the truth. He just sees the administration as the Keystone Cops; they couldn't find their shoelace in the dark. Like a big, retarded Baby Huey. Dumb, but dangerous at the same time.

Bush is an idiot. Bin Laden is not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:02 PM
Response to Original message
11. So our great victory is forcing Osama to become... more hip!?!
Is that what this article is saying? I mean I know people had said oh look, Osama's not talking like he used to, we put him off stride... and now he's been forced to speak in plain Arabic to disaffected youth pissed at us over Iraq!

Great victory, this!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:58 PM
Response to Original message
13. "No duh" analysis after two days ignores
the unconscious subtext of Bin laden's scorn for the Baath and his nearly movie villain smarminess preaching to "you Americans".

They won't probe this obnoxious personality because it is uncomfortably similar to someone else a third of America holds dear. Well, Cheney too. Well, probably a lot of the other smug pious frauds about to exit the stolen stage.

Pious sadist who knows what's good for everyone else. yecch.

Nothing worse than a semi-reformed frat boy.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msgadget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:53 PM
Response to Original message
17. He's making a lie of, "The world is safer with Sadaam captured."
And reminding us that he's still there, free, healthy and able to reach out whenever he wants.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 07:16 PM
Response to Original message
18. That's only been going on for the last two+ decades dating back....
...to the Afghan-Soviet War.

OBL's not "trying" to do anything...he's BEEN doing it for quite some time!

What a bogus article!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 12:49 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC