Iraq: Why Bush now wants the UN (presidential election next year)

[NNN0LHI]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3076976.stm

In accepting that the UN should have a security role in Iraq, President Bush has accepted reality.

Despite a recent claim by chief US administrator Paul Bremer that Iraq is "not a country in chaos and Baghdad is not a city in chaos", events suggest otherwise. Mr Bush does not want to get bogged down there.

The presidential election next year is a powerful incentive for the Bush team to consider any proposal that prevents Iraq from becoming a determining campaign issue.

And the influential Congressional Budget Office (CBO), which carries out independent policy studies, has provided a practical reason for Mr Bush to change his policy.

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[Monte Carlo]

1. I think France, Germany, and Russia have gained a lot of power...

... over Bush since the end of 'major combat operations', whatever that means. Despite the best efforts of the Bush Administration, we cannot occupy Iraq alone, especially in an election year. France, Germany, Russia, and pretty much the rest of the world are perfectly content to let us stew in our own juices for a while until we are willing to submit to the U.N. Time is not on Bush's side.

[lanlady]

2. it's in the interest of these countries

to see Bush defeated. Hopefully they realize his fate may well be in their hands.

[displacedtexan]

3. astute observation!

wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall during their discussions
of *?

[jos]

17. I hope they don't bail him out

He screwed them. Why should they help him?

[saigon68]

23. CHEESE EATING SURRENDER MONKEYS

I wonder how the French are reflecting on all the abuse that was heaped on them a few months ago by a lot of right wing WACKOS

I don't seem to remember the Chimpanzee or the POODLE-- asking their forces to lighten up.

Remember all the bullshit about digging up the Dead at Normandy and bringing them back to the US--- In Congress the notion of FREEDOM FRIES////

WHAT UNMITIGATED GALL BY A BUNCH OF LOSERS.. Especially the sniveling performance by War Hero Colon Bowel on TV yesterday.

[indepat]

24. They can be bought if the price (ultimately in the 100s of billions?) is

right.

[moondust]

4. Scrub would never accept reality even if he could grasp it.

He gave the treasury away to his rich chums and he now has to come up with a billion a week for the forseeable future. Where are his millionaire buddies now that he needs the money? Stupid fool!

He charges into an illegal war without a clue what the unintended consequences may be and now he wants the wiser people who knew better to shed their blood because of his ignorant actions? Stupid fool!

This is a just another rich man's boy who was not cut out to hold public office. Without question a stupid fool!

[kalazh]

5. I wonder

what kind of spin on this defeat Bush's spindoctors are going to put to make the general american public to swollow?

[NNN0LHI]

6. The kool-aid drinkers at freaKrepublic think it is a great idea now

They didn't before, but they see this eating into their idiot in chiefs poll numbers and now think its a wonderful idea. Flip flop time.

Don

[diplomats]

7. Consistency, needless to say, isn't their strong point

eom

[maxsolomon]

8. american casualties aside

i hope the security council makes bush grovel in an open session & then tells whistle ass to get fucked.

[scarletwoman]

9. My sentiments exactly.

Bush* made his own bed, now he can sleep in it. I really hope the UN says, "Thanks, but no thanks."

sw

[grasswire]

10. why bail him out before an election?

Please read the Monbiot article that I posted in editorials. It is excellent.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=103&topic_id=9028

[scarletwoman]

11. Yup, I've already read it!

(I LOVE George Monbiot! What an outstanding thinker!)

Anyway, I completely agree with Monbiot's take on this situation. If the UN comes to whistle-ass's rescue on this one, it will be evidence to me of an accelerating degeneration of the institution itself. A long downward spiral away from the ideals for which it was originally conceived.

sw

[The Magistrate]

15. Indeed, Ma'am

The United Nations ought to do nothing to pull the chestnuts out of the fire for the criminals of the '00 Coup. It is certain the people of Europe would not support doing so, and likely their governments will follow. The only thing that might alter this is a willingness by the reactionary reptiles behind the invasion to share lavishly in the booty, and this, we may be certain, will not occur. For one thing, the booty is mostly imaginary: oil contracts, for instance, are worth little, and will remain so for a long time to come.

[scarletwoman]

19. "Reactionary reptiles" -- Great phrase!

Hi Magistrate! :hi: Great to see you around!

Hope you are well,
sw
:loveya:

[The Magistrate]

20. A Pleasure To See You As Well, Ma'am

Antique forms of abuse have a certain charm for me.

About my health, the less said the better: it has not failed completely yet, and people who are not depressed are just not paying enough attention....

[JPace]

12. Great article....

Well thought out and to the point!
It will be painful for the U.S.
but if we follow the leadership
of a fool we must suffer the
consequences.

Seems we learned nothing from Vietnam.

[julka]

14. thanks, grasswire!

great link

where've you been lately?

or is it me?

[StandWatie]

13. No one is going to save Bush

it doesn't even matter if it would be a good idea.

He made this cock-up and if he was smart he would just hand the whole place over to his fake "council" and leave. The council would probably last about a half hour but it doesn't matter how long we stay there that's what is going to happen eventually anyway.

[The Magistrate]

16. Indeed, Mr. Watie

You have seen the future.

Still, the longer U.S. forces remain, the worse for the criminals of the '00 Coup, and therefore it is my hope, as well as my expectation, they will remain in place through next year at least. The people behind this foolishness are blinded by a vision of themselves as "hard men" who must never back down, and this psychological weakness will prevent any sensible action on their parts. A creme-puff masquerading as a Kaiser roll can never give it up.

[cliss]

18. Isn't it strange to think....

that the countries of the UN could determine Bush's fate???? I read an article on the DU which appealed to all us Americans to change the fate of our country, to get rid of this man who has caused the entire world so much anguish.

What a kick that the rest of the world might have his balls in a sling?

**like many others who have posted here, I do hope the UN stalls and stalls and stalls.....

PS thanks everyone for being a part of DU. It really means a lot to me to read everyone's postings. They're funny, witty, and sarcastic. Instead of being pissed off every day, I get to laugh.

[RapidCreek]

22. I hope they don't stall

I hope they very quickly remind Mr. Bush, that they are irrelevant. I would imagine that the rest of the world doesn't suffer the relatively short attention span of the average American. Now is their chance to make that point effusively and indelibly clear.

RC

[radfringe]

21. heard on a reich-wing radio show

from a caller...

asked if the whistleass was wimping out by going to the UN, with his hat in hand, and munching on crow after we had listened to the bravado about "going it alone" and "bring 'em on"