Wisconsin Republicans question another 37,000 Milwaukee addresses

[hnsez]

Milwaukee Freeman Newspapers, WI The state Republican party is questioning another 37,180 addresses of people registered to vote in the city along with the more than 5,600 it already had flagged last week.
The party is demanding city officials require identification from all of those voters Tuesday or it is prepared to have volunteers challenge each individual at the polls.

http://www.gmtoday.com/news/politics/state/topstory121.asp

[shoelace414]

1. Why didn't you do this

one month ago!

(they are just setting up a challange for the courts after Kerry wins Wisconsin)

[molly]

2. This is getting more and more ugly - shows desperation

[snippy]

4. True. The GOP is terrified. n/t

[molly]

5. I want to see * cry on national TV

[snippy]

9. I want to see him reveal his madness for all the world to see.

I want him to embarass his supporters and cause them to argue that he needs sympathy and treatment rather than condemnation and prosecution.

[noonwitch]

18. If the first debate didn't reveal that to his supporters, nothing will

They are hopeless.

[pinkpops]

3. An appropriate resopnse would be to send volunteers

to republican precincts to do the same. The goal is to make the lines so long that people turn around and go home, is it not?

[Silverhair]

6. What is wrong with requiring ID?

Don't all states do that anyway? I can't remember ever voting and NOT being required to show some sort of ID. I would hate to think that somebody could just walk in and claim to be me and steal my vote without having to show some ID. It doesn't take any extra time to already have your ID out and ready. I always have. Doesn't slow things down a bit.

ID EVERYBODY!!!

[LeftHander]

8. Wisconsin does not require ID....

YOu can register at the polls with two items that have you addres on it...a phone bill and utility or an ID...

The reason why is you can be a citizen with the right to vote and NOT have a state issued drivers license.

Do you want to prevent people from voting?

My elderly neighbor does not drive and she has no drivers license. Are you going to make her go get a ID so she can vote in the ward that she has lived in ALL HER LIFE!

[HereSince1628]

27. This about Wisconsin Voter Registration from the Mosinee websire

VOTER REGISTRATION

Residents may register to vote at City Hall - 225 Main Street from 8:00a.m. to 4:30p.m. Monday through Friday.

Requirements: A voter must reside in a "permanent" residence at least ten (10) days prior to an election and be 18 years old. "Permanent" residence does not include hotels or motels.

Wisconsin Law allows a voter who has not registered with the City Clerk by Election Day to register at the polling place where the voter would normally cast a ballot. A voter registration form must be completed before the voter is allowed to cast a ballot.

Several points to remember about registering to vote:

1) As part of the registration process, a voter must provide proof of residence and, in some cases, citizenship. Examples of this proof are a Drivers License or Birth Certificate. If these do not have the proper address, use the Drivers License to verify who the person is, and then ask for something with the current address (a bill with current address, checks, etc.)

2) Lacking proof of residence, a voter may ask that another qualified voter, living in the same district, serve as a witness in supporting statements made on the registration form.

In a Presidential election, a new Wisconsin Resident who has moved into the State of Wisconsin less than 10 days before the Presidential Election, and is ineligible to vote absentee in his or her State of previous residence, that voter may vote for President and Vice President only by completing the following forms:

[Bridget Burke]

15. Having an ID for the real poll workers is not the same...

As being "challenged" by some Republican stooge.

[GinaMaria]

20. No ID needed if you can match signatures to the one they have on record

You sign in and they compare the sig to the one you signed on your voter registration. Not everyone has ID. Many homeless people do not have IDs.

[sandnsea]

23. I never have

Alot of people don't have photo ID's and what the heck does a utility bill prove anyway? If they wanted to check these registrations, they could have done it as the registrations came in. It's meant to cast doubt on the process and slow up voting, nothing more.

[MacDo]

25. I'm with you

100% People are getting out of control. You can do almost nothing in America without showing ID, and voting should be no different!

[stickdog]

26. Fuck off with your gleeful dreams of a fascist state.

You can get along just fine without an ID if you don't drive and pay with cash and/or a debit card.

Exactly what's wrong with the address plus signature plus mark you off the precinct list test? If somebody votes in your place, THEN pull out your ID and demand a provisional ballot and a full investigation.

[TankLV]

29. I couldn't agree more.

What's next, internal passports when traveling around the community?

Isn't this what we fought WWI & II for?!?!

NO NATIONAL ID CARD - EVER!

[LiberalFighter]

28. I don't have to show my ID here in Indiana either

And NO not all states do that.

The likelihood of someone trying to impersonate you or anyone is unlikely because of various factors.

[Milo_Bloom]

31. I didn't need ID

When I voted in San Diego. I just walked in with my voter book and they handed me the ballot. I remarked to my fiance how easy it would be for someone to commit fraud this way.

[Patiod]

I've never shown ID

I just sign the book next to my signature, they make some inane comment about me only using my first initial (which is how it is in the book), and then I vote.

But I know all first-time voters will need ID. And it certainly wouldn't hurt for everyone to bring it along, just in case.

[LeftHander]

7. That would be the Waukesha Freeman

Newpaper...

Republican supress the vote operqation...

FACT in ANY list of address....as many as a 1/4 are going to be bad address...having worked with databases of addresses for years that is a fact about address. Buildings are torn down, houses split into duplexes...new apartment buildings are built...people move, mail gets put tin the wrong boxes.

So when the repukes send out thier mail that gets returned that they use to base there challenges on...where did they get the address list...?

Do they know that as many as 1/3 of those address could be bad if they did'nt scrub the lists and check the address against a known database of valid address from the postal service...even then there will STILL be many returns...

[yellowcanine]

10. Some people reject Republican mailers. Does that make their address "bad?"

[LeftHander]

14. TO the GOP it does....

Voters who refused to accept the GOP mailers were put on the challenge lists. One of the swing states the GOP was denied thier bid to challenge thousands of address because of returned mail.

[yellowcanine]

11. How about homeless people - they have no address at all - does that

mean they can't vote?

[oldlady]

12. homeless can vote

under Wisconsin law a homeless person may register to vote at the polls if one registered voter will vouch for the identity of that individual.

[cubsfan forever]

13. Fascists! Pure desperation

Somehow I don't think they can have "volunteers" challenge voters at the polls. That doesn't sound legal to me. Any Wisconsin DUers comments would be welcome.

Professor 2

[Dinger]

16. Wasn't there just a ruling against this in OH?

You'd think the repugs here would pay attention to stuff like that.

[Dinger]

21. Here Is The Link

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/01/ohio.challengers.ap/index.html

[madrchsod]

17. it is against federal law to show id to anyone

but an official who challenges your name. then you have to show an id otherwise you match your name and address against the list in front of the election official. "volunteers" are illegal-voter intimidation is illegal

[lark]

30. Volunteers - no -

The Repugs are paying them $100. to disrupt the vote - er challenge voters. Two goals here, 1 - prevent Dems from voting by making lines so long people leave to get to their jobs 2 - if challengers denied, then they take the issue to Federal Court and try to get it in the hands of a reich wing appointee.

lark

[Richardson08]

19. this is America?

[progressivebydesign]

22. Those GOP idiots are just setting themselves up for violence..

It's frightening. With all the stories coming out this week about the attacks on OUR voting rights, I fear that the GOP is dancing on the edge of a cliff right now. You disenfranchise tens of thousands of voters, and eventually those voters are going to fight back. The court needs to tell them to back off... I fear for everyone on election day if the courts or the RNC doesn't back them off of these massive challenges. The electorate is angry this year.. because the majority of voters know that they screwed with the election last time, and they're doing it even MORE this time, and more blatantly. My state has been safe from these disgusting tactics.. but so many other states are dealing with this. Is anyone else worried?

[msanthrope]

24. Technically, I have a 'bad address'--let me explain

I live in a city where you can easily tell which side of town some one lives on by their street number.

If your address is 1500 or below, you live on the east side of town.
1500 and above, the west side of town.

My address is alternately listed as West Tree Street or 16xx Tree Street. Anyone with more brain funcion than a sack of shit can figure out that they are the same address.

However, this qualifies as a 'bad address' according to some Repukes.