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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:53 PM
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MEMRI: Bin Laden Tape Threatens U.S. States Not to Vote for Bush
The tape of Osama bin Laden that was aired on Al-Jazeera <1> on Friday, October 29th included a specific threat to "each U.S. state," designed to influence the outcome of the upcoming election against George W. Bush. The U.S. media in general mistranslated the words "ay wilaya" (which means "each U.S. state") <2> to mean a "country" or "nation" other than the U.S., while in fact the threat was directed specifically at each individual U.S. state. This suggests some knowledge by bin Laden of the U.S. electoral college system. In a section of his speech in which he harshly criticized George W. Bush, bin Laden stated: "Any U.S. state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security."

The Islamist website Al-Qal'a explained what this sentence meant: "This message was a warning to every U.S. state separately. When he said, 'Every state will be determining its own security, and will be responsible for its choice,' it means that any U.S. state that will choose to vote for the white thug Bush as president has chosen to fight us, and we will consider it our enemy, and any state that will vote against Bush has chosen to make peace with us, and we will not characterize it as an enemy. By this characterization, Sheikh Osama wants to drive a wedge in the American body, to weaken it, and he wants to divide the American people itself between enemies of Islam and the Muslims, and those who fight for us, so that he doesn't treat all American people as if they're the same. This letter will have great implications inside the American society, part of which are connected to the American elections, and part of which are connected to what will come after the elections." <3>

http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SA1404

File this under, we have no credibility, so it doesn't matter how stupid we get...
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KingChicken Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:54 PM
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1. That's highly misinterpeted, please don't spread this crap!
Nation-State, City-State, a state describes an organization of government, he was refering to the world, and the "states" that are for and against him. Most countries use provinces as sub boundaries, of course Americans think that states refers to our use of the name in naming sub boundaries. This is crazy!!!!
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 06:56 PM
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2. freeper bait
nt
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:00 PM
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3. Oh, for fock's sake -- this again?
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 07:02 PM by htuttle
'state' is 'nation-state'. Sweden is mentioned, for example -- it's a nation-state.

:eyes:

And while I'm at it!
MEMRI is affiliated with Israeli intelligence, and Al-Qal'a is a front site -- it's fake.

This story is psyops from top to bottom.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:00 PM
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4. Article debunks the tape
The whole point of the article is to debunk the video. They make reference to the fact that a lot of Jihad and Muslim extremist symbolism is missing from the video. Also, the negotiation thing seems too far fetched, and this is pointed out too.
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:01 PM
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5. Brought to all of us...
by Fox News, Brit Hume...

In other news, close examination of the Osama video reveals Osama wearing a Kerry/Edwards button...

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bubbismith Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:03 PM
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6. Unfortunately, heard it on CBS radio this morning...
KNX 1070 in Los Angeles. Guy said the same thing... SPIN mo-fo SPIN.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:05 PM
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7. We need to know these things. The cost of liberity is eternal
vigilance. Know thy enemy. etc.
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:06 PM
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8. locking
not LBN
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