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Quetzal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:48 AM
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Report: Dutch filmmaker murdered
Report: Dutch filmmaker murdered

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands -- A Dutch filmmaker who criticized the treatment of women under Islam in a recent movie and in newspaper columns was murdered in Amsterdam, media reported Tuesday.

Police confirmed a fatal shooting occurred outside a city government office, but did not give the victim's name.

Amsterdam television station AT5 cited witnesses saying the victim was filmmaker Theo van Gogh. A bystander was also reportedly injured in a shootout between the culprit and police.

Police spokesman Eric Vermeulen said the victim was shot and the shooter fled to a local park. He was then arrested after exchanging gunfire with police.

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Report: Dutch filmmaker murdered
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 05:52 AM
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1. Guess he took it personally.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:20 AM
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2. Charming response
It's a tragic murder of a man because he made a film some lunatic disagreed with.
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RivetJoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:14 AM
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5. PTSD
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:57 PM
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22. The film was about the lunitic's... they dont like people putting them in
the light of day...

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:24 AM
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3. At first I thought it may have been Jamie Dorgan
the man that documented Convoy Of Death

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm
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Dukakis88 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:13 AM
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4. Here's his picture
This was the photo on the front page of his website.


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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 08:39 AM
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6. Shooter was Moroccan.
Apparently the suspect stabbed van Gogh, and then shot him when he tried to escape.

He was supposed to appear on Dutch television this evening as part of a debate on the American elections.
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Fear Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:39 AM
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7. This is a very very sad day :(
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 09:43 AM by Fear
He was and will remain a very intelligent man - on the edge of current events and addressing them.
Submission was his last film.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 09:50 AM
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8. Outspokenness = murder
Shocking day in The Netherlands once again. :scared: :cry: :grr:

DemEx
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Dutch Courage Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:12 AM
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9. He was the Michael Moore
of The Netherlands. He was a firm defender of free speech and had strong critcs at people who were against. Like the fundamental moslems, like his murderer.
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Ohio rules Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:44 PM
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19. If Michael Moore were to make an anti Islamic
political movie, we will be saying R.I.P. M.M. before it became available on DVD.

just an observation of the truth.
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Wols Donating Member (194 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 10:22 AM
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10. Fundamentalists
Can't live with 'em, can't get away from them.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:01 AM
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11. Was he really named Theo Van Gogh? (vincent's brother)
Sad story tho.
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Dutch Courage Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:43 PM
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18. Vincent belonged in line
to his family. He was a greatgrandchild of brother Theo: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theo_van_Gogh (Sorry, Dutch language)
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mikedemocrat Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:09 AM
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12. another wacko with a gun n/t
.
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RegexReader Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-03-04 01:08 AM
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25. somehow I don't believe
that it was registered or the owner had a license. Just didn't have time to get some of their 300 tons of explosives over there to do the job for them.

RegexReader

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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:34 AM
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13. horrendous...
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 11:34 AM by Blue_Tires
try to tell the truth about something, and the only gratitude you get is a bullet through the skull....I've never been to Holland, but i always in my mind thought they were more intelligent, enlightened, and tolerant of differing views than us...

look for some freep piece of shit to shoot some indie filmmaker in the US soon
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:14 PM
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14. ttt
a shame that this has kind of fallen by the wayside on election day
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jdj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:18 PM
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15. this is so disconcerting.
I'm about over this crap.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:20 PM
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16. Fundamentalist nutcases are the enemy
no matter where they are.

RIP, van Gogh.
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Ohio rules Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:39 PM
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17. Remember the author of "The Satanic Verses" ?
Are the muslim hit men still looking for him?
It's been like 20 years since a Fatwa has been nailed to his Infidel head.
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Dutch Courage Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 06:51 PM
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20. Theo made a film
about Koran verses, used by islamitic men to suppress their women. It was rather provocative (for moslems): the texts were projected at the naked (!) body of a wounded, ill-treated woman. It was his idea of freedom of speech, but it seems he signed his sentence of death with it.
Latest news now is the culprit had links with a suspected (but released) muslem terrorist.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 07:08 PM
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21. I am so sick of religious whackjobs I could scream!
How do you think the Dutch will react to this? Wasn't there an issue with Muslim immigration a while back?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:16 PM
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23. Were these what you were reffering to ...........
Edited on Tue Nov-02-04 11:26 PM by sam sarrha
A:\IHT_France_Takes_On_ Plague_Of_Sexual_'rite'.htm

A:\TIME_Magazine_Crime_in_Europe_Dec 2, 2002.htm

A:\CBS_News_The_New_French_Revolution_May14,2004_225940.htm

http://fuckfrance.com/read.html?postid=405564&replies=8
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-02-04 11:17 PM
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24. I thought this was coming....
I'm so sad it happened. There are many others involved in this film project that are in danger also I'm afraid.

They were only depicting the truth.


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