Mirror (U.K.): God Help America

[kskiska]

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN..

THEY say that in life you get what you deserve. Well, today America has deservedly got a lawless cowboy to lead them further into carnage and isolation and the unreserved contempt of most of the rest of the world.

This once-great country has pulled up its drawbridge for another four years and stuck a finger up to the billions of us forced to share the same air. And in doing so, it has shown itself to be a fearful, backward-looking and very small nation.

This should have been the day when Americans finally answered their critics by raising their eyes from their own sidewalks and looking outward towards the rest of humanity.

And for a few hours early yesterday, when the exit polls predicted a John Kerry victory, it seemed they had.

But then the horrible, inevitable truth hit home. They had somehow managed to re-elect the most devious, blinkered and reckless leader ever put before them. The Yellow Rogue of Texas.

more…
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14832124&method=full&siteid=50143&headline=god-help-america-name_page.html

[babylonsister]

1. Sadly, just about every country

now feels this way about the US. Too bad the peabrains chose not to be aware of this...

[kskiska]

10. French editorial

Pourquoi ?

Good question.

Or this:
Merde! Démocrate, John Kerry, a concédé la victoire à son rival républicain à la Maison Blanche

more…
http://www.lemonde.fr/

[Nicholas_J]

37. Hopefully, they put their money where their mouths are.

While the rest of thew world complains about the election of Bush, most of their governments finance Bush's ability to carry on his war in Iraq and continue his deficit busting agenda. European investment in any number of methods of supporting the deficit are astounding. They invest in U.S. Trreasury bonds to the degree that two European nations alone are financing about half of the current deficit. Germany and France. So far only Germans are talking about taking the stance of calling in their treasury bond investments and pulling out of the United States entirely.

There have been concerns expressed at the possiblity of this trend continuing.

The Endgame for the U.S. Current-Account Deficit
Kevin Drum interviews Paul Krugman, and in the course of the interview Krugman thinks about the end of the U.S. trade deficit:

CalPundit: An Interview With Paul Krugman: What happens if these foreign countries do stop buying U.S. bonds? Is this a real concern, or a tinfoil hat kind of thing? Oh, I don't think China is going to to pressure us. You can just barely conceive of a situation where they're mad at us because we're keeping them from invading Taiwan or something, but more likely they just start to wonder if this is really a good place to be putting their money. So what happens is a plunge in the dollar when they decide to stop buying and start cashing in, and a spike in U.S. interest rates. But you might also get in a situation where the interest rates the government has to pay to roll over its debt become so high that you get an accelerating problem, which is what happened in Argentina. What happened was that suddenly no one would buy Argentine debt unless they paid a twenty something percent interest rate, and everybody says, but if they have to roll over their debt at a twenty percent interest rate, there's no way they can pay that back. So the whole thing grinds to a halt and the cash flow just dries up.

http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2003_archives/002242.html

The fools in Freeperland who have the bizzarre idea that the rest of the world should "mind its own business" is an irony in itself. The U.S. does not mind ITS own business, invading and overthrowing governments where it sees fit. In every sense of the word, Iraq WAS NOT OUR BUSINESS. Freeper idiots who lost every legitimate reason for overthrowing Saddam Hussein now try to fall back on the overthrow of a tyrant, and the spreading of democracy. But that is simply not our business.

THe rest of the world IS minding its business when a U.S. government runs a deficit that threatens the rest of the worlds business. the U.S. has a massive trade deficit with the rest of the world, and after China, its deficits with France,Germany, and Canada are the next largest. They ARE minding their business when they are concerned with the policies of a cowboy of a president. IOIt seems they may mind their business by withdrawing all investment in U.S. Treasury bonds. This in itself would collapse the U.S. economy. U.S.economists are still hanging on to the idea that if the U.S. economy fails, the world economy will fail. However, the Germans are working out methods to buffer their opwn economies from being effected by any adversties in the U.S. economy.

Well, we may have to suffer for the decision of the idiots who voted for Bush, but by facing a few years of severe recession, Democrats can be certain of the complete collapse ofRepublican and conserfvative power in the United States. People may be hurting, but not enough for them to discard what they call values fo enough to eat. It will be well worth it to watchh support for Geprge Bush to dry up

In Late September the Deutche Band decided to end its investment in U.S. treasury bonds. This will result in the U.S. Government having to directly borrow money from other nations "IF THEY CAN" Given the U/.S. deficit, some nations may consider the U.S. a bad risk. I beleive that the nations we have snubed in Europe may be paying Bush back by refusing to finance his "pre-emtive war policy" >without foreign investmen, or foreign loans, the U.S. economy and even abiulity to wage war would gring t a halt in 6 months.

In fact, we democrats who are angry at Bush's win and the morally hollow values of the Bush supporters, could greatly assist this process. If we simply buy only the bare essentials to live., food, shelter, utilieis, and the things we need to work, we could have a devastatinfg effect on the economy, and in particualr, the economic resouirces Bush needs to carry on his war. We could easily force the hnads of the conservatives.If only ten percent of those who voteds against Bush started doing this today, the effects on the markets would be more devestating than the attacks of 9/11. It is our duty to do so. There is no way the conservatives could or would be able to pur enough money into the economy to counteract it. an economic embargo of our own country is the best way to show our disgust for the decisions made on November 2nd. It would be far more effective than protest marches. remove all of your money from the bank, and put it into Thomas Cookes travellers checks or travellers check cards. Make sure that the checks are drawn on a European company.Get lists of corporations that supported Bush and buy as little form them as possible. Let your purchases be your protest.

[Nicholas_J]

38. Hopefully, they put their money where their mouths are.

While the rest of thew world complains about the election of Bush, most of their governments finance Bush's ability to carry on his war in Iraq and continue his deficit busting agenda. European investment in any number of methods of supporting the deficit are astounding. They invest in U.S. Trreasury bonds to the degree that two European nations alone are financing about half of the current deficit. Germany and France. So far only Germans are talking about taking the stance of calling in their treasury bond investments and pulling out of the United States entirely.

There have been concerns expressed at the possiblity of this trend continuing.

The Endgame for the U.S. Current-Account Deficit
Kevin Drum interviews Paul Krugman, and in the course of the interview Krugman thinks about the end of the U.S. trade deficit:

CalPundit: An Interview With Paul Krugman: What happens if these foreign countries do stop buying U.S. bonds? Is this a real concern, or a tinfoil hat kind of thing? Oh, I don't think China is going to to pressure us. You can just barely conceive of a situation where they're mad at us because we're keeping them from invading Taiwan or something, but more likely they just start to wonder if this is really a good place to be putting their money. So what happens is a plunge in the dollar when they decide to stop buying and start cashing in, and a spike in U.S. interest rates. But you might also get in a situation where the interest rates the government has to pay to roll over its debt become so high that you get an accelerating problem, which is what happened in Argentina. What happened was that suddenly no one would buy Argentine debt unless they paid a twenty something percent interest rate, and everybody says, but if they have to roll over their debt at a twenty percent interest rate, there's no way they can pay that back. So the whole thing grinds to a halt and the cash flow just dries up.

http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2003_archives/002242.html

The fools in Freeperland who have the bizzarre idea that the rest of the world should "mind its own business" is an irony in itself. The U.S. does not mind ITS own business, invading and overthrowing governments where it sees fit. In every sense of the word, Iraq WAS NOT OUR BUSINESS. Freeper idiots who lost every legitimate reason for overthrowing Saddam Hussein now try to fall back on the overthrow of a tyrant, and the spreading of democracy. But that is simply not our business.

THe rest of the world IS minding its business when a U.S. government runs a deficit that threatens the rest of the worlds business. the U.S. has a massive trade deficit with the rest of the world, and after China, its deficits with France,Germany, and Canada are the next largest. They ARE minding their business when they are concerned with the policies of a cowboy of a president. IOIt seems they may mind their business by withdrawing all investment in U.S. Treasury bonds. This in itself would collapse the U.S. economy. U.S.economists are still hanging on to the idea that if the U.S. economy fails, the world economy will fail. However, the Germans are working out methods to buffer their opwn economies from being effected by any adversties in the U.S. economy.

Well, we may have to suffer for the decision of the idiots who voted for Bush, but by facing a few years of severe recession, Democrats can be certain of the complete collapse ofRepublican and conserfvative power in the United States. People may be hurting, but not enough for them to discard what they call values fo enough to eat. It will be well worth it to watchh support for Geprge Bush to dry up

In Late September the Deutche Band decided to end its investment in U.S. treasury bonds. This will result in the U.S. Government having to directly borrow money from other nations "IF THEY CAN" Given the U/.S. deficit, some nations may consider the U.S. a bad risk. I beleive that the nations we have snubed in Europe may be paying Bush back by refusing to finance his "pre-emtive war policy" >without foreign investmen, or foreign loans, the U.S. economy and even abiulity to wage war would gring t a halt in 6 months.

In fact, we democrats who are angry at Bush's win and the morally hollow values of the Bush supporters, could greatly assist this process. If we simply buy only the bare essentials to live., food, shelter, utilieis, and the things we need to work, we could have a devastatinfg effect on the economy, and in particualr, the economic resouirces Bush needs to carry on his war. We could easily force the hnads of the conservatives.If only ten percent of those who voteds against Bush started doing this today, the effects on the markets would be more devestating than the attacks of 9/11. It is our duty to do so. There is no way the conservatives could or would be able to pur enough money into the economy to counteract it. an economic embargo of our own country is the best way to show our disgust for the decisions made on November 2nd. It would be far more effective than protest marches. remove all of your money from the bank, and put it into Thomas Cookes travellers checks or travellers check cards. Make sure that the checks are drawn on a European company.Get lists of corporations that supported Bush and buy as little form them as possible. Let your purchases be your protest.

[halobeam]

69. How about we write all our letters to the editor in the world papers?

Instead of using our media here. The brittish press is so good at what real over here, we can relate to them. We aren't respected here, so lets talk to who will listen!

Didn't they have some of their citizens write to one of our papers here and some got all bent out of shape? lol

Screw the media here, if they arent our voice, we'll find our voice somewhere else.

Imagine that.

[Carolab]

80. Yes, great plan

Let's tell them all we've been taken over by a coup through a rigged election--for the second time.

They seem to think WE voted for *.

[Donkeyboy75]

2. I understand the frustration.

The unfortunate truth, though, is that caustic pieces like this written by foreign press will only strengthen isolationist sentiment in the United States.

[Dhalgren]

16. Then make them shut up...

[Donkeyboy75]

25. I'm not responsible for what others write. n/t

[DBoon]

29. A true red blooded American

trying to tell non-US newspaper reporters what they can and cannot say.

After all, we get away with it here. Our newspapers heel and sit on command, why can't those dang furiners do the same.

(I assume you were being sarcastic, BTW)

[Carolinian]

46. Tough S* the isolationist sentiment is W's problem, not mine!

Dance Monkey, Dance!

[Birthmark]

3. What the world doesn't seem to understand...

...is that now Americans are safe from the grave, grave threat posed by gay marriage. :crazy:

[carnie_sf]

52. And don't forget

we'll all be able to hunt deer with our assault rifles

[prodigal_green]

53. we'll have to

for meat.

[barb162]

63. LOL something finally made me laugh for the first time in 2 days

it is a brilliant analysis of the fundie mentality that they are more concerned about "values" than their jobs or peace. They associate moral values with the biggest liar in the world.

[XanaDUer]

4. Yes.

You probably won't be surprised to learn of would-be Oklahoma Republican Senator Tom Coburn who, on Tuesday, promised to ban abortion and execute any doctors who carried them out...

At one time I, too, would have been surprised. Not anymore.

I agree with this article except about Bush's charm.

[hatrack]

20. Especially considering that Coburn used to perform them

Guess retroactive legal action's probably out of the question . . .

[iamjoy]

70. I Didn't Know That!!

I mean, that Coburn used to perform abortions. Do you have a source?

Interestingly enough, in Margaret Atwood's THE HANDMAID'S TALE they did execute abortion doctors ex post facto (if I got the term correct)

Frighteningly enough, it seems we are moving ever closer to a Republic of Gilead.

[anakie]

5. it gets better

"A dangerous chameleon, his charming exterior provides cover for a power-crazed clique of Doctor Strangeloves whose goal is to increase America's grip on the world's economies and natural resources.

And in foolishly backing him, Americans have given the go-ahead for more unilateral pre-emptive strikes, more world instability and most probably another 9/11.

Why else do you think bin Laden was so happy to scare them to the polls, then made no attempt to scupper the outcome?"


Go the British press

[Dhalgren]

6. "The Yellow Rogue of Texas"

This will be my name for Caligula, from now on. I love it; and I hate it... America is done - dry leaf...

[jobycom]

33. Damn that was good. I want my bumper sticker!!! nt.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

36. I live in a red state but voted blue!!!!!!

[HereSince1628]

87. Here are the words...

THE YELLOW ROGUE OF TEXAS

new post-election lyrics
by Heather Munro Prescott ([e-mail]),
Department of History, Central Connecticut State University
There's a Yellow Rogue in Texas
That people scarcely see
The press cannot get near him
He just sends out Dick Cheney
He cried about the recount
And said it would not do
But if it's right for Texas,
Why not for Florida too?

Chorus:
He's the dumbest little doofus
That Texas ever knew
His grin is rather goofy
And just a bit off true
You may talk about a revote
And sing of what could be
But the Yellow Rogue of Texas
Beat the dork from Tennessee.

Where two rivers are a' flowin'
And the starry skies are bright
He walks his grounds in Austin
In the quiet autumn night

He hopes that we remember
When his Dad was president
But hopes we don't remember
His Dad left a large national debt


Now he's headed for the White House
And my heart is full of woe
But as I think upon it, here's one thing I do know
That his reign will not be eight years, but rather only four
And soon the Yellow Rogue of Texas will be theirs forevermore

[CrispyQ]

7. Great article.

I'm printing it & when my mother, who voted for *, comes crying to me about how awful he is, I'll hand her this.

[yorkiemommie1]

12. at least your mother has the capacity....

i swear my husband would deliver me to the brownshirts if they came knocking.

[llmart]

49. You, too?

Let's talk. Next time my husband whines about the price of gas, our diminishing retirement money, and having to work overtime for free, he's getting the "quit your whining - you voted for him."

[Skittles]

56. get rid of that asshole, yorkie

you can do much better

[Frederic Bastiat]

8. I just talked to my friend in the UK

They are pissed! Whoa! He went on to tell me that the American people have validated the last three years of W reign and that before there was a distinction drawn between the American government and the American people. Not any more.

[calimary]

9. Yeah, I was afraid we'd start seeing observations like this one.

There will be more, ahead.

DAMN. They want to joyride on the Titanic. And the rest of us have to come along.

[gratefull4u]

11. At least someone is telling the truth.

Our media will not. The more I read about this election the more angry I become at our press for not exposing * for what he is.

[goodboy]

13. Thank you for this post. (nt)

[flordehinojos]

14. painful as it is, it is wonderful to see that many can see through bush

on to the darkest hour of american history that he brings to these U.S.

[OKNancy]

15. Not LBN

but it's staying here!!

Sent it to all my Okie family ( we are all Democrats)

[soup]

17. thank you.

I may have missed it otherwise.

saving and sending

[Dhalgren]

18. "The Home Of The Knave and the Land Of The Freak."

S P O T O N ! !

[Child_Of_Isis]

19. Evidently, the rest of the world believes that

half of the American populace is in love with shrub also. And the election wasn't stolen. And The People have spoken. So, how can they be any smarter than Americans? Does the rest of the world actually believe this election wasn't a sham?

[sattahipdeep]

21. 55 million people voted to oust Bush from office...

How appalling must one man's record at home and
abroad be for you to reject him?

....
Day of the Dead: The Haunting of
the White House
By Cynthia McKinney and Catherine Austin
Fitts
Nov 2, 2004, 07:46

Something is rising from the ashes of September 11: the
spectre of questions that will haunt our country until answered.

http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_13213.shtml

HOUSE: New 7R, 6D. Cynthia McKinney
overwhelmingly won back the seat she held for a
decade before being upset in 2002 Democratic
primary.
....
Published: Nov 1, 2004
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_14882.shtml
Grand jury investigation?
On behalf of New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, Chief Investigator William Casey
accepted a Complaint and Petition from a group of New York City citizens including 9/11 family
members, survivors and a Ground Zero triage physician. The Complaint demands that the AG open
a criminal inquiry and/or grand jury investigation into the many still unsolved crimes of September
11, 2001 over which he has jurisdiction.
....
Marsh opens $230m fund to appease Eliot Spitzer

By Simon English in New York (Filed: 03/11/2004)

Marsh & McLennan, the broker at the centre of America's
insurance scandal, is setting up a $230m compensation
fund as it tries to rescue its tarnished image.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2004/11/03/cnmarsh03.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2004/11/03/ixcity.html

....
Bremer.....
Prior to being in Iraq, Bremer was Chairman and Chief
Executive Officer of Marsh Crisis Consulting Company, a crisis
management firm owned by the financial services firm Marsh &
McLennan. From 1989 to 2000, he was Managing Director of
Kissinger Associates, a strategic consulting firm headed by former
Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger.

Schwarzeneggers butt buddy Kissinger.

[young_at_heart]

22. How will students studying in Europe (and elsewhere) manage now?

No longer will it be "We love Americans, but hate Bush". The millions of Americans who didn't vote for him will be forced to be lumped with those who did, unfortunately.

[Karenina]

35. Don't worry about it.

If the kid is a *bot s/he may be more comfortable returning to the intellectual swamp. Truth be told, kids become "Europeanized" rather quickly. It may have something to do with being surrounded by all the
easily accessible "old stuff" which has the uncanny effect of E-X-P-A-N-D-I-N-G their perspectives.

[Caution]

23. BUMP

Read the whole thing people. This sums it up pretty fucking well.

[212demop]

59. what does Bump mean?

[allemand]

24. Mirror: "How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?"

My thoughts exactly.

[AFSCME girl]

50. Can we get this made into...

a t-shirt or bumpersticker?

[riverwalker]

68. I printed andf have it over my desk

will keep it there for 4 years.

[AFSCME girl]

76. Rock on, riverwalker!

That's a great idea! :bounce:

[lebkuchen]

84. That photo cover made the front page of yesterday's Stars and Stripes

albeit smaller, but still on the front page.

[sadiesworld]

26. The exit polls were "wildly inaccurate"?!

:eyes:

[dbt]

27. Whoa. Out of the mouths of Brits!

the most devious, blinkered and reckless leader ever put before them. The Yellow Rogue of Texas.

No shit!

:freak:
dbt

[Gregorian]

28. The STUPID and GREEDY people have spoken. Not us.

We tried. But the media wouldn't listen. And I still don't know if he really won. I kind of doubt it.

[reprobate]

34. Diebold won! When the exit polls are directly opposit the

machine results, any sane person would reach the conclusion that there's something that stinks like week old fish in those machines. Bev Harris warned us all, but NOTHING was done about it.

Rest in Peace, the wonder that once was America. It's over.

[Gregorian]

43. It WAS Diebold.

I've been unable to stop thinking about bbv and Bev Harris, the entire time. And how nothing was done. And how it is undemocratic to hold an election where people are not certain. That is wrong.
However, it wasn't a 10/90 landslide. And in that respect, the people really did speak. Well, the frightened, and stupid people.
But yes, we must get accountability before any further elections.

[XanaDUer]

44. Well it cant last forever

Eventually, Democrats will rebound, and Republicans be removed from power. When enough kids are killed in Iraq in the families of only moderately religious supporters of Bush, the turnaround will come. When it does we should not be gracious, but pull the plig on religious fundamentalism. Just as they have tried to control the airwaves with right wing crap, the reinstitution of Fairnes doctrine should be immediate and all broadcasters, including the right wiong broadcasters be required to give equal time for opposing points of view. INCLUDING religious broadcasters. Require them to broadcast the athiest position for half of the day. Or even better, use the first amendment to deny all religious broadcasting from the public airwaves by the establishmenmt of religion clause. We should do everything possible to pull the plug on their ability to spread their message.

[212demop]

58. Yes... 5 votes from each machine in Ohio! ... I read

from a site linked to from electoral-vote.com that it would only take stealing 5 votes from each Ohio machine to get the results we got. Check the site out. I don't remember what it's called but they're seriously looking into the Diebold business.

[molly]

30. Greed and Vanity - self-serving - dim-witted

I agree with everything they say......

"A self-serving, dim-witted, draft-dodging, gung-ho little rich boy, whose idea of courage is to yell: "I feel good," as he unleashes an awesome fury which slaughters 100,000 innocents for no other reason than greed and vanity."

[0007]

31. I want the sixties back. I want this country to know what a youth

movement is indeed all about.

[FeelinGarfunkelly]

41. young'ins

Speaking as a voting youth in America, all I can say is this. People wonder why we don't vote. I don't think it's that no one's talking our issues. I think it's because when we DO vote, our voice is drowned out by Baby Boomers or evangelists. But I do think that we do need to have that 60's mentality. Over and over again I think I was born at the wrong time. But John Kerry gave me hope. And we're going to get through this. Conservatism as we know it is going to end after this cycle, I can just feel it.

[xxqqqzme]

32. I was wondering what I

would replace 'squatter' with. Thank U Mirror..he is from hence forth the 'yellow rogue' since I refuse to utter or write his name. It fits him on so many different levels. Thank U, thank U.

"...Today is a sad day for the world, but it's even sadder for the millions of intelligent Americans embarrassed by a gung-ho leader and backed by a banal electorate, half of whom still believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11.

Yanks had the chance to show the world a better way this week, instead they made a thuggish cowboy ride off into the sunset bathed in glory.

And in doing so it brought Armageddon that little bit closer and re-christened their beloved nation The Home Of The Knave and the Land Of The Freak..."

Indeed!

[burrowowl]

39. My relatives in Mexico

send me an e-mail asking why did Gringos vote Bu$h in again?

[Say_What]

66. I was astounded to hear that 1/2 the Latino vote went to Bush?!

For the life of me I can't understand why.

Paz...

[Judi Lynn]

73. Love that 'toon. Superior. Thank you. n/t

[Blue_Tires]

83. catholics? abortion??

[The_Casual_Observer]

40. They had a chance to stick it to chimp about support of Iraq

and they didn't. Fuck them.

[savistocate]

45. Military Votes NOT counted in Ohio

--support the troops. And so much more. Still put out punch card machines (old malfunctioning) in predom black districts --spoilage-THROWN OUT ballots 3%. Randi Rhodes..may have links, http://www.therandirhodesshow.com CLEAR they shaved
% - total their fabricated "win". Crorrupt immoral unprincipled illegal acts are Christian..Conservative values in that rotted demented world.

[jdj]

48. I like randi

but unless she has links posted on her website get another source than her for documentation. she bungles up her facts alot.

I totally agree, the election was swiped, best sources are Paul Krugman and Greg Palast and Amy Goodman for stuff like that.

[Amigust]

60. Palast

Story

[Dinger]

42. No, It Wasn't The People That Spoke

You figure out what I'm talking about.

[Cinletharwi]

47. God help the Corporations if we get organized

Counter-Revolution, anyone?

[Piperay]

51. Sad

for them and us. :cry:

[AndyTiedye]

54. WE DIDN'T DESERVE TO GET ROBBED AGAIN!!!!!!!

Just because we have no idea how to stop them, doesn't mean we deserve it!

[alexisfree]

55. chile fail to acuse him of crimal

http://www.tvazteca.com/hechos/archivos2/2004/11/103408.shtml

[Blue_Tires]

57. SPOT ON

put into words exactly what i've been feeling

an op-ed writer would probably get banned trying to write that here...

[katinmn]

61. The cover photo tells it all

[BiggJawn]

62. Well, that's that, then...

Guess any ideas of travelling past the 12-mile limit are off, not that I'm ever gonna have the money to travel any farther than Michigan City in this "Brav Nu Murka"...

Of course, you know, the typical Murkan "Value Voter"'s reaction will be "Huh...Fuck 'em Limeys. They-uns talk funny an' got nasty lookin' teeth, anyways..."

At least they GOT teeth, Bubba....

[prolesunited]

64. Link no longer works

Anyone have a copy of the article? I wanted to send it to several people.

[kath]

72. Try this link:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/columnists/brianreade/

[prolesunited]

77. Thanks!

:hi:

[Say_What]

65. "To the tens of millions who voted for John Kerry, my commiserations."

I work in a company with many people from various places around the globe: China, Pakistan, India, Russia, Canada, all over really. A few of them said to me "Couldn't Americans see how Bush failed?" I could only reply; "More than half of us could see that and we voted for Kerry." and they looked at me dumbfounded, unable to believe that we are collectively so f*ckn' stupid. A few said they were seriously considering other countries to move to--Sweden is a top choice. Some came here from ME countries where the use of fear and intimidation and religious extremeism was the primary reason they left their countries and came to the US--now to their dismay, after many years of living here and now having young children--they see the same tactics being used here and assume (probably correctly) that things will only get worse domestically and internationally.

Cry for us Argentina!

[LynnTheDem]

67. WOWZAH...jebus fucking cripes! Good thing they're our CLOSEST ALLY

YEEEEEOUCH!

[rockydem]

71. Whew - that's we need in this land - see they have Faux-newsesque

media outlets....

We don't.

Seriously - that was like reading a Limbaugh rant written by a partisan Democrat. It had a certain flair to it.

We need some people like that here in this country.

[Carolab]

74. Oh, yes, this is nice too

THANKS FOR YOUR RESPONSES... Nov 4 2004




By Steve Purcell


Thanks to everyone who has emailed Mirror.co.uk today, or posted their opinions on our messageboards.

As you can imagine, there have been so many I can't possibly reply individually to you all. It feels like I've had somewhere around 59 million emails - although I'm sure it's really in the thousands.

Many have been extremely abusive - what is it with so many Americans and anal sex? Others have been supportive or at least positively critical. And literate.

One recurring theme is that 'If it wasn't for us Americans you'd all be speaking German.'

Not that we'd agree with that statement, but you must know that if it wasn't for a snowdrift delaying a couple of delegates at the time the Declaration of Independence was being drawn up America would actually be speaking German today! Check it out.

Which side would you then have been on throughout the last century?

A quote attributed to Noam Chomsky reads: "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all."

It's a good maxim.

It's clear that half of America disagrees with our front page today. But half of you also agree with it.

To the rest of the world you appear to be a dis-United States. Howling at the moon - or condemning European opinion - will not solve your problems.

Many thanks for visiting our site. Click on our messageboards to Have Your Say. The right to be able to do that is one thing we ALL agree on...

Steve Purcell

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/tm_objectid=14835551%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=thanks%2dfor%2dyour%2dresponses%2d%2d%2d-name_page.html

[Carolab]

75. Go to their MESSAGE page

"Have your Say"--and TELL THEM THE ELECTION WAS HIJACKED AND WE NEED HELP! Other people are doing just that.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/haveyoursay/tm_objectid=14821991%26method=full%26siteid=50143%26headline=the%2dus%2delection%2d-name_page.html

OMG--look how stupid this person's message is (note the spelling of "moron")! You won't believe some of the freeper comments there. It is so embarrassing!

Helen from MN 06:54:28 PM 04 November 2004
To American frm Dtroit. I suggest you move to another country. President Bush is not a moran. Me thinks you wanted Mr Kerry to be our President. Well it didn't work out that way so get over it. The terriorists leave us alone because Bush has the guts to kick their bummpers.

[For PaisAn]

78. Globally, we're in the majority

This article served to remind me of that.

[sarahlee]

79. That is Tony Blair's Labor Party's paper

also, I got this note from an expat friend in France today:

QUOTE:
Here are some thoughts:

1) Slightly more than half the voting population is incapable of rational political thought. They are under the control of lying media and mullahs. In the short-to-medium term there is no hope to cure them. Their obsessions are incompatible with democracy. If they continue to succeed, the US could in short order become a frighteningly dangerous theocracy. Remember that theocracy is only an ideology to bamboozle the population while it is being pillaged and raped.

2) The progressive movement is, nevertheless implanted in the other, slightly less than half, of the population. It must continue to sap the theocratic loonies from the inside in whatever creative ways that can be imagined. Now is not the time to compromise with these people. Just as the racist anti-Arabs say, the theocrats take conciliation for weakness and increase their attacks. Just look at the last four years of Republican refusal to compromise in Congress for confirmation of this remark.

3) Progressives should commit to boycotting companies that donated money to the Bush Campaign.

3) No nation or coalition of nations can face down the US militarily. If they tried, it could well lead to the annihilation of life on earth.

4) The US suffers from an enormous Achilles heel. That is where our friends abroad must strike to cripple the Bush administration. The monstrous proportions of the US external debt put it in a precarious position. If, for example, Bush threatens to invade Iran, the US should be threatened with a call on its debt, just as Argentina was. The result of making the call would be the same as in Argentina, and the US would have no way to respond. This is a weapon that should be wielded with the kind of sophistication that "Old Europe" knows so well. It should be used to protect the American people from the worst excesses that we can expect in the coming period. We as progressives should welcome this help from the world's democracies to help preserve democracy in America. If they should be forced to crush our already- gutted economy, we should thank them, and accept their help in rebuilding it. America is no longer the "city on the hill" that it once was. With our democratic allies' help, perhaps we can regain that position.

[Seabiscuit]

81. "God Bless America" should be changed to "God Help America"

Got lyrics?

[Cooley Hurd]

88. Here's a quickie job...

God help America
Land that we lost
Stood beside her
despite the
fundie's coup, now we're in poo to our ears

Mason-Dixon line to the Gulf Coast
Jerry Falwell's mouth, white with f-o-a-m
God Help America
Now Jee-bus-land
God Help America
Now Jeeeeee-busssss-land!

[Blue_Tires]

82. ttt

[JoFerret]

85. The yellow rogue of Texas

What a great line. Perfect.

<<A self-serving, dim-witted, draft-dodging, gung-ho little rich boy, whose idea of courage is to yell: "I feel good," as he unleashes an awesome fury which slaughters 100,000 innocents for no other reason than greed and vanity.

A dangerous chameleon, his charming exterior provides cover for a power-crazed clique of Doctor Strangeloves whose goal is to increase America's grip on the world's economies and natural resources>>


<<Yanks had the chance to show the world a better way this week, instead they made a thuggish cowboy ride off into the sunset bathed in glory.

And in doing so it brought Armageddon that little bit closer and re-christened their beloved nation The Home Of The Knave and the Land Of The Freak.

God Help America.>>

[Tight_rope]

86. Well...us DUers' knew it was coming!