Looks like NM is going for Kerry, just heard on AlbQ news

[swhisper]

[Indiana_Dem]

1. Thank God for small pleasures! Thanks NM! nt

[ElsewheresDaughter]

38. IOWA??? what is happening there?

[Hobarticus]

87. Lotsa red counties. Don't expect anything to change.

Just like the national trend, blue metro areas, red rural areas.

[Sannum]

2. What's the point?

I am about to jump off the Sears Tower. I can't do four more years of this.

[gavodotcom]

4. One point is if NM goes to Kerry, Bush picked up no states.

A small point, but a point nonetheless.

[kskiska]

9. Except Florida

Gore really won Florida in 2000.

[PsychoDad]

20. Doesn't exit polling...

Indicate that Kerry took Fla also?

[Spangle]

27. If the votes were counted...

Florida is a real possiblity. There are areas that I KNOW are off.

example..
pct with 4,500 voters. 50% Democrat, 25% Republican, 25% "other." 75% of the voters voted.

Out of all that, Kerry came away with only about 170 more votes then Bush????? Kinda smells... doesn't it?

But it seems like the Democratic party isn't intrested in counting the votes. What is the point of GOTV???

[Pachamama]

73. Have all the Florida Absentee Ballots and Military Vote been counted?

Just wondering....this isn't over....

[tsuki]

31. Did he? Oh, I forgot, his brother promised him Florida.

[Protagoras]

71. And we may have won FL in 04 too

but we'll never know because that would resemble open democracy. Trust the machines...the machines are your friend.

[Sara Beverley]

26. It also means it is important to count every vote! Even in OH and FL

It may not be over yet!

[mountainvue]

69. It's over. I

talked to a freind in Boston who said campaign HQ is empty, Cahill is at the Cape and the lawyers are probably not on the payroll anymore. WTF?

[lefthandedskyhook]

63. Two, we busted our butts to keep NM blue

and we have to go on living here in this darkness. We need good news of any size right now.

[prairie populist]

43. No shit, did you catch the Daily Show

footage of that pompous assBush insisting during his press conference that a one-question press rule was the will of the people?

He actually said that.

"You've already asked one question. You've broken the one question rule. Don't you respect the will of the people?" or something to that effect, but I'm not exaggerating. What a smug shit head.

I hope the press finally realizes what a monster they have created and they do the best Woodward and Bernstein imitation possible to bring the goober down.

But to follow up your what's the point question, wasn't there a thread somewhere indicating there were still a lot of absentee ballots from Boulder County, Colorado still being counted? The post kinda made it sound like Colorado could possibly be inching toward closer numbers, and, this is my assumption, a recount?

[libbygurl]

3. NM gives 5 electoral votes for Kerry then? nt

[seafan]

24. Is it now Kerry 257 to * 254?

Since states are still counting, neither candidate has 270 electoral votes yet, as I understand it.

[YDogg]

5. That would be grand ...

... I spent some time in the Land of Enchantment. I'm still enchanted, yo.

[Tesibria]

6. CNN has "Checked" Bush as the projected winner ...

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/president/

not sure how long that's been there.

[flowomo]

16. wrong.... that was the national map.... you have to click two maps....

to get NM.... very confusing.... when you click a state on the front of the CNN site, you get the national results, then you can click a state. I don't see any check on NM yet.

[burrowowl]

42. The NM Sec of State has

a web site updated every 15 minutes from where the votes are being counted.
Do you think there are any CNN reporters there?

[tabasco]

7. NMSU grad here glad to hear it.

Thanks for the update.

[dhinojosa]

8. I worked my ass off on election day here in NM 4 Kerry (16 hours)

This would just make me feel like our state is not a rednecked subhuman state, and I would feel extremely happy.

:)

[oldtime dfl_er]

11. Thank you for your work!

and I say it's just too bad Bill Richardson isn't governor of Florida!

[zeemike]

19. I vote in Rio Aribba County

And I can tell you that at some of the polling places there were traffic jambs, like San Juan Pueblo School
They can not tell me bush won this state and make me believe it.
But in my precinct 9the Hernandez elementary school there were only two voting machines.

[LearnedHand]

44. Hi, dh!!!

Welcome to DU, and thanks for all your hard work on election day! You are an inspiration! (I'm in ABQ, also!)

[alittlelark]

90. I was there too, In Alb. Where were you?

[Ducks In A Row]

10. it was that way

it looks like the SOS heard about it, and screwed with the count because it JUMPED big time for bush**

bush went from .3% behind to a full 1.0% ahead between updates around 5pm PST

http://65.160.159.96/County0.htm

[high density]

14. Yeah, the Bush numbers have been pouring in on that website

over the last hour or so.

[fearnobush]

28. Did they go through the 18,000 provisional ballots yet?

[Jackpine Radical]

15. Jesus.

You can just watch it happening, can't you?

[maddezmom]

12. hope it's true for all the campaign workers, GOTV'ers and the Voters!!

They deserve to have the votes counted...ALL of them.

[quaoar]

13. Thank you, New Mexico

[bendeminga]

66. Yes, Thank you NM!

Otherwise we'll wish bombings on you. Just look at what we are saying about Ohio!

This is NOT a distuptor--this is 'having enough' of wishing ill will on other Americans. My house is divided--and I don't want any of them hurt.

[LynnTheDem]

17. Wonder what bush's PV will really be when California et al are finally

counted?

So stupid, they don't even bother to wait until the millions of votes are all counted before they brag about bush's 51%. LOL!

[Retrograde]

21. doesn't matter - they already got the headlines

Truth and accuracy have never been hallmarks of this administration - why should they start now???

[LynnTheDem]

22. Yep. But it's up to US to FIGHT those headlines.

EVERY blog, EVERY leftwing/non-partisan paper, EVERY Dem on EVERY punidt show.

We must start fighting those headlines in what solid hunk of LIBERTY...look what we did to Sinclair.

[alittlelark]

18. I did 'election protection' out there

Our district went 2-1 Kerry (SE Alb.)

[wellstone_democrat]

46. southeast heights! my old neighborhood

or do you mean the south valley? (isn't clear with just SE Alb). but, I lived in the south valley once as well. Happy to see sanity somewhere and esp in my beloved once home

[alittlelark]

88. It was on Walker SE

funky community that I thought was on the wrong side of the freeway to be SE. But the tracks are what legally separate N/S.

I grew up in the Ridgecrest section of the SE

[rawstory]

23. LINK?

[fearnobush]

25. It's hugely important, It proves Palast's point that if we dig hard enough

we can find all the stolen and provisional votes that put Kerry over the top in Ohio. Plus, it's the only blue state that is not connected to Canada in any way.

[littlehammer]

29. KOB now lists

The wood chopin horseless cowboy as being ahead. They are still counting ballots however so maybe Kerry can pull it off. If my state goes for Bush I might have to move.

[DeepModem Mom]

32. Welcome to DU, littlehammer -- I'd love to see the Land of Enchantment...

remain as blue as the sky.

[LearnedHand]

45. Welcome to DU...

... fellow 'Burque - ian!!! :hi:

[Dancing_Dave]

30. We still need to study NM carefully and bring all voter suppressors

To justice, so they never try to steal an election again!

Also, the election fraud campaign was nation-wide, and national patterns indicating Rove's national dirty tricks scam will help us set things right in Ohio, etc.

[daleo]

33. Kerry gave up too soon

Jeesus, I could see that yesterday, why couldn't someone who had lived through the Viet Nam lies not see that?

[Straight Shooter]

34. John Kerry is staying above the fray

Legally, his concession meant diddly. Edwards, remember, was shouting with fireworks. He was the actual messenger. These men are professionals.

One reason we got screwed in 2000 is because the recount was all about Al Gore, I'm sorry to say. People associated the recount with Gore being a "sore loser." He was in it up to his eyeballs, especially with bush filing suit. bush won't file suit again, it will look extremely suspicious. That's why he grabbed the crown so fast and rammed it onto his pointed head. It's all about who claims to be King of the Hill first.

Notice how all the media is saying how "gracious" Kerry is. When all votes are counted, and Kerry comes out ahead, no one will be angry with him. Stunned, maybe. But not angry.

*fingers crossed, praying fervently*

And why do you think bush is moving so damn fast to implement his agendas. Jeebers, not even a breather and he has hit the ground running!

edit to clarify the media can't be angry; they've already patted him on the back for his concession "performance." And believe me, it was a performance, all about kids and how heartfelt the whole experience has been and coming together to unite and heal.

[daleo]

37. I hope you are right

But I think you are dreaming. But I hope you are right.

[goodboy]

57. I hope you're right...your post is a glimmer of hope....nt

[lefthandedskyhook]

64. *fingers crossed*

Hope lives here.

[Pachamama]

75. I think you hit the nail on the head....its not over really...Dec 13th is

...the date to watch....

Wouldn't be interesting if when the Electoral college met their were defectors? And if between then and now additional info surfaces and votes actually counted and verified, then its possible we would have the real "surprise"....My theory is similar to yours about Kerry's concession....I've actually thought of the scenario you suggest and also that it was a shrewd political move, even if he was defeated. My hunch is that also with Daschles departure, Kerry is the clear choice for the position of Senate Minority Leader to be the one to lead...imagine that and John Edwards the head of the DNC.....and then a run in 2008 for the White House again...

[Reciprocity]

35. Absentee vote tallied

Absentee vote tallied
By Carrie Seidman, Ed Asher and Jennifer W. Sanchez
Tribune Reporters

<SNIP>
The process of hand-counting absentee ballots that were rejected by the optical scanning machines ended Wednesday night. Bernalillo County Clerk Mary Herrera said this morning the absentee ballot count total - including all those counted by machine - favored presidential candidate John Kerry. Kerry garnered 32,010 absentee votes; President Bush received 27,297.
The outcome of the race, of course, was decided two days ago and did not change in the slightest with the addition of the 59,307 votes.

<SNIP>
The county still has about 13,000 provisional ballots to validate. Provisional ballots are issued to voters who for one reason or another were told they couldn't vote - some weren't on the poll list; others were shown to have received absentee ballots.
For more..
http://www.abqtrib.com/archives/news04/110404_news_tally.shtml

[Nostradamus]

36. Winston Churchill is the inspiration here

"the gratitude of every home in our states, in our commonwealth, and indeed throughout the world, except in the abodes of the guilty, goes out to the american election activists who, undaunted by odds, unwearied in their constant challenge and mortal danger, are turning the tide of the 3rd World War by their prowess and by their devotion.

Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. All hearts go out to the election activists, whose brilliant actions we see with our own eyes day after day"

"I expect that the Battle for democracy in america is about to begin. Upon this battle depends the survival of Christian civilization. Upon it depends our own amercian life, and the long continuity of our institutions and our country. The whole fury and might of the enemy must very soon be turned on us. Bush knows that he will have to break us in this country or lose the war. If we can stand up to him, all America may be free and the life of the world may move forward into broad, sunlit uplands. But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new Dark Age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science. Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves that, if the US and its freedoms last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."

Its your country

Go out and save it from the fascists

Now

Nostradamus

[daleo]

39. I have thought a lot of Churchill

Sure, he was a conservative, but he knew you had to fight fascists, when it came down to the final show. Churchill was a champion, and he would have died if Hitler would have prevailed, but that sort doesn't come around very often. I thought Kerry had that in him, because millions will die now that Bush has been given the high ground. I can't believe Kerry gave up in less than 24 hours.

[cap]

40. it's not churchill, we should look too... but FDR

no one on TV talks about FDR because he was a democrat who was strong, wise, and compassionate. Working people had a picture of him in their houses.

[Cha]

41. I have a picture of Kerry/Edwards and

Dean And Gore in my apartment! And I'm not ever taking them down!

[Carolab]

47. I'm CONFUSED

Is NM going for Kerry or NOT???

[TexasChick]

48. The tallies keep going up and down at this point. n/t

[Julien Sorel]

49. If this is true, congratulations

to all the New Mexico Democrats. Hell, congratulations anyway.

[Buddyblazon]

50. What would happen if we got close enough...like only a couple of

electoral votes....and some of their electors...defect...and vote for Kerry?

I know one elector said he couldn't cast a vote for Bush...and he was a repulican.

[Toucano]

51. Without the popular vote

That would probably be a major mistake.

Try governing with a republican congress and no mandate. A recipe for failure.

[noamnety]

61. Depends how you define failure

If it means Bush doesn't appoint judges, it's a success. Actually if it prevents anything of Bush's agenda from happening, it's a success. But the other half of the country won't figure that part out til it's too late.

[The_Counsel]

85. Well, I Don't Know About That...

In 2000, bush lost the popular vote, and for the first six months tried to govern as if he'd won in a landslide.

In 1995, after having swept into majorities in both houses, the Republicans tried to marginalize Clinton -- insisting he was no longer relevant. They shut down the government, and paid for it in the next election.

In 2005, Kerry could still govern -- especially if he legitimately tried to reach out across the aisle. No "agree with me or get left behind" rhetoric from this guy. The funny part is, if Kerry somehow pulled this out and took the Presidency, it would be the REPUBLICANS trying to marginalize him, citing "no mandate."

Now THAT would be a recipe for failure...

[SoCalDem]

52. As of 2:27 AM(PST) 11-5-04...Kerry behind by 7429 votes

PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

JOHN F. KERRY and JOHN EDWARDS Democratic 357144 48.9% (-7429 votes)
GEORGE W. BUSH and DICK CHENEY Republican 364573 49.9%

DAVID COBB and PATRICIA LaMARCHE Green 1229 0.2%
MICHAEL PEROUTKA and DR. CHUCK BALDWIN Constitution 959 0.1%
MICHAEL BADNARIK and RICHARD V. CAMPAGNA Libertarian 2334 0.3%
RALPH NADER and PETER MIGUEL CAMEJO Independent 4069 0.6%



minor parties "wasted" 8,591 votes..4069 of them for Nader

[freeplessinseattle]

53. damn damn damn can't we catch a break?

[SoCalDem]

55. now it's -7508

:grr:

[Libby2]

54. Does anyone know the statistics of exit polling?

I always thought they were pretty darned accurate, until 2000.

I guess, I could make that a project.

[iowa_democrat]

56. don't give up on iowa either

we are still countying thousands of challenged and provisional ballots.

steve

[sidpleasant]

58. as of 10:08AM EST it's Bush by 3899

Shrub's margin is narrowing!

[SoCalDem]

59. YAY... what do you want to bet

that if the vote ends up favoring kerry, and is close..Bushies will demand a recount:)just to piss us off :)

[henslee]

60. If Bushies go there....they will be opening up pandoras box

[headache]

62. Kerry/Edwards only down 5,000 votes, as of 10:40 AM EST

JOHN F. KERRY and JOHN EDWARDS Democratic 353925 49.1%
GEORGE W. BUSH and DICK CHENEY Republican 358925 49.8%

http://65.160.159.96/County0.htm

[SoCalDem]

65. That's worse than a few hours ago.. ugh..

What's taking them so long?? There aren't that many people in NM

[savistocate]

67. alittlelark taking on 'electionprotection'

thatis great,brave--all of you working for JK -democracy.

[mountainvue]

68. Why in the hell was this election conceeded

two days ago? Why is no one watching the counting of absentee/provisional ballots in Florida/Ohio? I feel so betrayed.

[bamacrat]

70. ok say this happened

what if it came out that Kerry really won NM and OH is ther any chance he can become president. or was it over when he conceded?

[mountainvue]

72. Heads up, DU!

*'s margin narrowed to 2510. Hope someone from our side is watching this. Can anyone help?

[Riptide]

74. Yahoo just posted that Dubya picked up Iowa and the other last states

that were still undecided! WTF?

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&e=5&u=/ap/president_iowa

[Viking12]

76. -2857 at 10:34:50 AM

[orangeotter]

77. Kerry still down in NM

11:50 CST Kerry down by about 2500 votes

[dethl]

78. We might get NM

Its better than the 8000 vote spread from last night.

[righteous1]

79. B+3204@10:49

[Bill McBlueState]

80. WHERE IS YOUR SOURCE???

This thread has been open for over sixteen hours, and all we've heard from the original poster is "Looks like NM is going for Kerry, just heard on AlbQ news"

How is this a vaild LBN thread?

It appears to be a lot of hearsay, maybe a troll to get our hopes up.

[righteous1]

81. post # 62 don't be so paranoid

[righteous1]

82. Shrub wins Iowa

Jeeeeeez, just heard on WABC that he won Iowa

[lizzieforkerry]

83. This is not true. Check out NM Secretary of State's website

Just updated several minutes ago.

[henslee]

84. NOT LBN - MOD, JUST LOCK THIS THREAD. NO LINKS IN ORIG. MESS .

If someone wants to start a new one, fine.

[sidpleasant]

86. 1:57PM EST update: Bush lead in NM down to 2162

Shrub's lead continues to shrink.

[lizzieforkerry]

89. I think it is weird that more people voted democrat for the

representatives than for Kerry in NM

KE 331162
BC 333324

Dist 1
D 116105
R 140481
R 241

Dist 2
D 79061
R 118826

Dist 3
D 143913
R 61658



See? Add all the Dems together and you get 339079 vs 331162 for Kerry. I don't know much about NM, is this possible that 8000 people would split their vote?

[jayfish]

91. Post This Somewhere Fresh Please.

It warrants wider examination.

Jay

[B Calm]

92. Whats the latest update?

[AlCzervik]

93. as of a few moments ago

 
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
  JOHN F. KERRY and JOHN EDWARDS Democratic 336449 49.0%
  GEORGE W. BUSH and DICK CHENEY Republican 342217 49.8%

http://65.160.159.96/County0.htm