NYT: Rove in Position to Consolidate Republican Majority (for generation)

[DeepModem Mom]

Campaign Strategist Is in Position to Consolidate Republican Majority

By TODD S. PURDUM and DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: November 5, 2004


....with Mr. Bush's re-election, (Karl) Rove has not only cemented his reputation as one of the canniest campaign gurus in a generation but has also put himself in position to shape second-term policies that could help realize his longtime goal of consolidating a broad Republican electoral majority for a generation to come.

"He is the master of the game," said a respectful Democratic rival, Donna Brazile, who managed Al Gore's campaign in 2000....

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Over the past four years, Mr. Rove has made himself the face of the White House's outreach to the evangelical Protestants and other "people of faith" who may well have helped propel Mr. Bush to victory on Tuesday. Conservative leaders said he was unfailingly attentive to their concerns and complaints, even in the hectic final days and weeks of a campaign in which he counted on turning out the president's core supporters in big numbers....

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Unlike James Carville, who helped elect Bill Clinton, or Lee Atwater, who was the first President Bush's political lieutenant, Mr. Rove works in the White House itself, and is the de facto domestic policy chief. His influence is presumed to extend to major and minor policy decisions, whether tax cuts or steel tariffs, stem-cell research or private investment accounts for Social Security.

He is the mastermind behind a campaigning and governing philosophy that puts a set of core policies in the service of politics to an unusually direct degree. Some elements of this approach are tonal and symbolic, while others - like a tax cut on dividends or a prescription drug benefit for Medicare - are more concrete....


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/05/politics/campaign/05rove.html

[Don Claybrook]

1. Fuck you, Donna Brazille

You've been pals with Karl Rove since you helped him to steal the office of the Presidency from Gore in 2000.

You're a traitor to your party, your country, and your ethnicity.

Oh yeah, did I mention Fuck You?

[KamaAina]

30. Was Brazile smoking a cigarette when she said that?

Breathing a bit labored, perhaps?

[eurolefty]

31. No. She was smoking crack. n/t

[xchrom]

2. he could very well do it.

nobody loathes rove more than me -- but the guy is a smart, skillful tactician.
and lefties of any stripe will never beat him if don't give the guy his props and study what he does and go after his strategy that way.
ignorance, being dismissive, arrogance, blaming the media -- none of that will help until there is a comprehensive and studied look at what rove, and folks like the heritage foundation do to succeed.

[saigon68]

8. I do not need to"Study" to be a HOMOPHOBE

He is evil and a product of the devil. There is nothing we need to Study to defeat him.

[lancdem]

9. I agree

[StClone]

14. Rove wins the vote

And destroys the country -- pure genius. Without a conscious you can do a lot of damage.

[petepillow]

24. yes, now there's a man with values.

he was born on christmas too. can you say anti-christ?

[bullimiami]

38. not smart and skillful

smart and evil. he will do anything to win. he has no morality. he is not human although he wears the flesh.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

3. Now more than ever, he needs to be outed as the one who outed Plame

[The Zanti Regent]

34. Dream on

He's off the hook, like Novak.

Face it, the Nazi Party is locked in power for a generation no matter what we do. White Trash is going to vote for Jesus no matter how the economy kicks them down.

AND

Diebold will make sure that the Nazis win.

[kikiek]

4. Game? This is our lives it isn't a game to us. Those who think they

are so high and mighty just have a longer fall and harder landing. He should be our target. There is your anti christ.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Rove would probably call all this nonsense.

I don't think rove ever takes credit for any of this, and would give all the credit to chimp.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

6. WTF has happened to our Party???

:argh:

[emulatorloo]

7. It is time to drag this cockroach into the light . . .

This guy needs to be targeted by a Swiftboat style campaign - fortunately they wouldn't have to lie like the swifties did. . .there is plenty of dirt to gather on Rove.

[ezee]

11. Agreed,

The person we should be trying to defeat is Rove, not ****.
By removing rove from power, by any way possible ,you remove *

[msongs]

10. As Josef Stalin said:

it's not who votes, it's who COUNTS the votes. evoting, to the programmers go the spoils.

Msongs
Riverside CA

2005 Beatles calendars
www.msongs.com/gallery_three.htm

[demokatgurrl]

12. Old news guys, WAKE UP

The repugs have been plotting the demise of the Democratic party since Gingrich, and are taking it slowly. When do we start fighting back?

[CBHagman]

17. I'm fighting already.

And Democrats still outnumber Republicans. Demographics are on our side.

But I'm going to be excruciatingly activist from now on.

[OneBlueSky]

13. won't happen . . . if there's one thing we can be sure of, it's that . . .

BushCo will self-destruct . . . yes, they'll probably take a lot of people with them, but they WILL self-destruct . . . their "non-reality-based" economic and military policies cannot survive in the real world . . .

[JHB]

15. "de facto domestic policy chief"

Such is the wreched state of politics in this country that a political advisor acting as "de facto domestic policy chief" is lauded as a mastermind and not derided as scandalous.

[CBHagman]

16. Bad policy through politics.

Note that they have to keep him hidden so as to keep the phoney Bush "nice guy" image operational. Didn't Rove smear Max Cleland and John McCain, among others?

And as when Tom Lehrer declared satire dead the day Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize, we have to retire the trophy for the comment that Rove, a disciple of both Richard Nixon and Lee Atwater, is a "Christian." God help us if this is the new faith.

Actually, it's the old faith -- greed, power, mammon, slander, deeds that must be hidden in order to bear fruit.

May God perform his justice on Karl Rove, thoroughly and for all to see. May we all live to see it, too.

[keopeli]

18. Genius or no, Rove has defeated democracy. We are now the Holy States of

Holy States of America. You want to fight? Fight for something you can actually win. Why do so many of you sit around angry and talking about fighting? Those days are over. Now, it's every person for themselves (if you're not a Holy States Citizen).

[keopeli]

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[berni_mccoy]

20. Rove is the Architect of the Bush Matrix.

[Ripley]

21. An unelected ASSHOLE determines America's Destiny?

Great. I am so FUCKING FILLED WITH THE POWER OF PRIDE TO BE A US CITIZEN. :nuke:

[carnie_sf]

22. Rove should be indicted for treason n/t

[Democat]

23. Donna Brazile is not helping us by sucking up to these assholes

Time to clean the losers and ass kissers out of the top of our party.

[petepillow]

25. Can't the party use fundraising to have a

non-election year (or four-year) campaign of commercials and publicity stunts to out rove to the nation? do it rove style... sneaky, subtle, constant, relentless character assassination. if enough people are fed his name via the media, he could easily become the next ken starr-like villian to the american people.

i honestly believe that if done right, the media will look at it as a fun scandal to drag him through the mud, and never catch on that it will have major political ramifications until it's too late.

i don't know. it's a dream... we can dream can't we?

[Bonhomme Richard]

26. So much bullshit....If Rove were...........

any good he wouldn't have to rig the election. The only history I see from him are two rigged elections. Big deal. The only difference is that he is willing to slip deeper into the gutter than any other political operative.

"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct."

The White Rose - First Leaflet

[DeepModem Mom]

28. You have a point -- he's won the press, but lost at the polls, stealing...

two Presidential elections, by fraud, voter suppression, mob rule, and a corrupt, compliant U.S. Supreme Court.

[saigon68]

32. Evil disgusting man

Can't wait to see his inevitable downfall

[vetwife]

35. Rove has got to go..He is the problem ! The Machine

[Bonhomme Richard]

27. So much bullshit....If Rove were...........

any good he wouldn't have to rig the election. The only history I see from him are two rigged elections. Big deal. The only difference is that he is willing to slip deeper into the gutter than any other political operative.

"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct."

The White Rose - First Leaflet

[no safe haven]

29. Karl Rove = Rasputin of the * admin

"Over the past four years, Mr. Rove has made himself the face of the White House's outreach to the evangelical Protestants and other "people of faith"..."

What about what he said to John Dilulio in David Suskind's article in Esquire "The Dilulio Letter to Esquire 10/24/02".

"...For instance, there was Karl’s desire to have John cozy up to the conservative evangelicals, with whom DiIulio was having problems. DiIulio recalls Karl telling him to bury the hatchet "and start fighting the guys who are against us." DiIulio says he responded: "I’m not taking any shit off of Jerry Falwell. The souls of my dead Italian grandparents are crying out to me, ‘That guy’s not on the side of the angels.’ " Rove backed off, DiIulio recalls, and said, "Look, those guys don’t really matter to this president.""

I think it's just a matter of time before Karl's house of cards comes tumbling down. It won't be able to sustain the weight of his ego.

[Redleg]

33. Perhaps Rove won't be so lucky to live that long.

EOM

[funnymanpants]

36. Rove a moron

Bush had a 90% approval rating after 9/11.

Bush won the election 51-49.

Rove was supposed to increase minorities in the Republican party. He barely escaped with a win.

It is disturbing, though, how the Republicans could consolidate power. We'll have to see if this is the case. Don't forget that the Republicans thought they had shaped the discourse forever after the Newt Gingrich revolution.

The Repubs got defeated the next term.

[bullimiami]

37. ONLY IF HE KEEPS RIGGING THE ELECTIONS

WHY DONT THESE ASSHOLES STOP TALKING ABOUT THE SHAM THAT THE ELECTION APPEARS TO BE AND START TALKING ABOUT THE SHAM THE ELECTION WAS.

SCREW THEM.

[Edmond Dantes]

39. Regarding Karl Rove....

the research has begun.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1334140

Please keep adding Rove info to this thread.

[Edmond Dantes]

40. kick

[Zorra]

41. WHAT THIS REALLY MEANS IS: Inauditable Electronic Voting Machines

will be the main voting system for a generation.

The election was won by fraud. Take over the media, and take over the voting system. This is where Rove's genius lies.

He is nothing but an intelligent criminal.

It has little to do with this other crap.

[Edmond Dantes]

42. kick

[Laelth]

43. Why won't someone in the media speak the truth?

The man is a brilliant snake. He cares only about winning, and he'll stoop to the lowest kind of unethical or illegal behavior to win. He'll lie, cheat, and steal to get what he wants, and he takes no prisoners. Cross his path at your peril!

Hmm, I feel better.

-Laelth


Edit:Laelth--for clarity; lots of people telling it like it is here at DU, but you never hear the truth in the MSM.

[captain jack]

44. Where's his counterpart on the left? Nowhere.

[Piperay]

45. Hey Rove, becareful flying to

close to the sun with those wax and feather wings, the spiral downward is going to end in a hard crash landing. :evilgrin:

[Clarkie1]

46. The Greeks knew what they were talking about

Ironic that I read that story to my class last week.