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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:01 PM
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New Ten Commandments suit dismissed - CNN
<http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/09/04/ten.commandments.ap/index.html>


snip> "MONTGOMERY, Alabama (AP) -- A federal judge dismissed a lawsuit Thursday by three residents seeking to return a 5,300-pound Ten Commandments monument to the lobby of the Alabama Judicial building.

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson said removal of the monument did not unconstitutionally establish a religion of non-theistic beliefs, as the residents claimed.

"The empty space or 'nothingness' in the rotunda of the Judicial Building is neither an endorsement of 'non-theistic belief' nor a sign of disrespect for Christianity or any other religion," Thompson said. "





now what will the wingnuts do?
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:03 PM
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1. i'm sorry, but that is just funny
The whole line about the 'nothingness' -- as if every cubic foot of empty space is a direct attack on Christianity. Was that really their argument?
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:04 PM
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2. It is!!
I had a few a laughs! :D
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CastorTroy Donating Member (239 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:15 PM
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5. Seriously, were they enjoying a splif when they came up . . .
with this?

That's classic pot-logic/reasoning.

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MoonGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 12:18 AM
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18. Yeah, that and the bit about...
... "a religion of non-theistic beliefs" had me LOL. I even went to share w/my g/f...
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:31 AM
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22. Fundie version of "String Theory": "Cross Theory"
While the scientists are close to being correct, empty space
isn't actually filled with tiny strings curled up microscopically
in ten dimensions; this widely-promulgated error is merely an
attempt by Atheists to fill God's space with "anti-religious
nothingness". Instead, what appears to be empty space is
actually filled up with a nearly-infinite number of tiny
little crucifixes curled up in those ten dimensions.

There's still some debate, though, as to whether or not
each of those tiny little ten-dimensional crucifixes has
a tiny little ten-dimensional Jesus on it; Catholic
"Cross Theory" scientists say yes while Protestant
"Cross Theory" scientists say no, and as yet, there's
no particle accelerator powerful enough to reveal the
truth yet. (Some scientists also worry that, if there
were a sufficiently-powerful accelerator, it might offend
God to smash those tiny little ten-dimensional Jesi into
even tinier little bits. Well, assuming they exist, of
course.)

Atlant
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 08:30 AM
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25. That's Some Funny Stuff, Atlant
Thanks for the chuckle.
The Professor
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:01 PM
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30. Isn't God supposed to be everywhere?
Their claim of 'nothingness' is heresy.
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:09 PM
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3. This argument that they were basing the case on,
that 'nothingness' in the rotunda of the Judicial Building is an endorsement of 'non-theistic belief', sounds to me like the same sort of logic that justified the war, to find the 'unknowns'.

We're in the 50's again aren't we?
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Booberdawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:14 PM
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4. "nothingness"
:wtf:
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:25 PM
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6. these court arguments that the rightwingers have been bringing
on lately, this one and the FAUX suit against Franken have got to be some of the stupidest suits ever brought up in a court of law.

Can't wait to see what the next lawsuit will be.
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Furity Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:58 PM
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11. Thank God
the repukes are against all of those "frivolous" lawsuits.

~Furity
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Pert_UK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:00 PM
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12. They're nihilists, Dude.....
:-)

P.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:05 PM
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13. LOL!
We'll chop off your JOHNSON!!
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 09:50 AM
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27. Nihilists! Fuck me.
I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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Anus Retainus Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:37 PM
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7. Boo-Hoo!
And I was so hoping that this one went all the way to the Supreme Court!

What else can they come up with next?

:crazy:
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Unregistered Donating Member (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:56 PM
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10. these...
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:50 PM
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8. The nothingness
sunyata, core of the Heart Sutra, heh, Buddhist basics presented by the Feds...

will wonders never cease?

dp
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Melsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:55 PM
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9. This is the saddest and funniest thing I have read on DU
So, space that is not taken up with religious stuff is endorsing non theistic religions?
ROTFLMAO

and

:eyes:

That is just plain silly!

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:11 PM
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14. Is the CR a little miffed about loosing power?
Hmmmmmmmm.........
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:13 PM
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15. Nothing From Nothing Means Nothing, Ya Gotta Have Somthing...
if ya wanna be with me!!!

From the Fifth Beatle - BTW!

So if God created the Universe, and the Universe is mostly made up of nothing, then God........

:shrug:
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 11:42 PM
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16. Well, conservatives
as you said to us so emphatically in December of 2000, "You lost!! Get over it!!!"
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Not a robought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 12:13 AM
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17. In other words, this
































....is not an endorsement of non-theistic belief. Go figure.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 03:20 AM
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19. Every defeat for our Taliban...
...is another day we are free to live without falling to our knees before illusions.

Thank God for that, I say. ;-)
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 05:17 AM
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20. Are these right wingers getting existential?
Their "Being" is mocked by "Nothingness"? Like Jean-Paul Sartre's "Being and Nothingness"?

"...therefore, my body is a conscience structure of my conscienceness..."

Uh, maybe not...

mikey_the_rat
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R Hickey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:10 AM
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21. I want a 5000 pound stone cow placed in my Wisconsin courthouse
We could even cover it with gold leaf, and the accused could pray to it before courtroom appearances, no matter what the charge.

Here in America's Dairyland, I believe such a religious monument would be quite popular, and might also serve to discourage the popular and sometimes vandalistic Wisconsin pastime of "cow tipping."
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:37 AM
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23. Isn't the Wisconsin state motto "Eat Cheese or Die"? (NT)
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 07:53 AM
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24. All hail "Non..."
...the state god of Alabama. :eyes:

(Now, that's just "Non" sense and a complete "Non" issue.)
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reprobate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 08:35 AM
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26. Was it Einstein or Sagan that first said:

"The universe is stranger than we imagine. In fact, it's stranger than we CAN imagine"

Meanwhile, science has discovered that 'empty space' is not really empty. It is infused with a strange kind of energy that they don't have a real explanation for, but manifests as the force that causes the expansion of space.

Try as I might I could find no reference to this in any of the currently popular religon's guiding tomes.

Isn't it about time that we as a species dropped the late stone age paradym and finally adopted one based on the real world, not depending any longer on some childish need for a father figure.

To quote from Thomas Brackett Reed: "They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge."
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 11:52 AM
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28. sound like the most common theist argument of all
atheism, being without god, is a religion too.

complete bullshit, of course, but common. glad this judge knew better.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 12:14 PM
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29. I wish Republicans weren't filing frivilous lawsuits all the time!
Really clogs up the judiciary system.
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