Aunt Anti-bush
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:18 PM
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Kerry Picks Up More Votes As Canvasses Wrap Up |
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http://www.thenewmexicochannel.com/politics/3915991/detail.htmlALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Democrat John Kerry picked up more votes Friday as several New Mexico counties finished certifying the results of the Nov. 2 election, but it wasn't enough to overcome President George W. Bush's lead in the state. (snip and a sniffle)
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:20 PM
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1. I can't believe Kerry lost New Mexico |
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Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:25 PM by zidzi
to that idiot that already is the worst president(sic) in history?!
Now it's going to be the Doubly "Worst"!
ON EDIT~ How can New Mexicans have a Democratic Govenor but can't quite get behind John Kerry for President?
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:27 PM
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3. He didn't. I was there doing 'election protection' |
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In Alb. the signs were 8 or 10 to one for Kerry. Early voting was done on touchscreens (1/3 of voters), and the day before the election they were replaced by optical scanners. Still no official reason that I know of. The Governor, Richardson, is ex-Clinton cabinet member.
The next month or so will be interesting.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:32 PM
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6. Thanks for this...they are asking us to believe |
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the unbelievable! New Mexicans know how they voted..I would get together and storm the state house or whereever you storm when treason is done!
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:20 PM
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13. The scale of their lies produce shock - its by design |
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They lie big, and just keep getting away with it.
They know all about mind control.
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:29 PM
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16. Mind control "winning" over |
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free thinkers. I think even Orwell would have a hard time believing the rovian 21st Century!
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The Brethren
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:17 PM
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20. Reality is stranger than fiction |
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I think Orwell couldn't even come close with his imagination to what is happening now.
If anyone has read "The Brethren" there are a lot of similarities to the masters of deception and control in office today.
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Sat Nov-13-04 02:20 AM
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32. I agree-Orwell is probably wondering why he did not think of the things |
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Rove puts into action. To displace his book by the Rove book of rules must have him turning in his grave.
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Sat Nov-13-04 01:20 AM
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30. Not optical scanners on Nov 2 |
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Shoups: you press button to light it. A paper tape prints out when machine is closed. I know I was an election judge. The touchscreen puters used during the early vote are highly questionable. There were lots of complaints.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:25 PM
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Edited on Fri Nov-12-04 09:48 PM by Carolab
Bush retains a lead of 6,120 votes in an Associated Press unofficial tally that did not include final numbers from a few counties.
How come there aren't final numbers "from a few counties"?
Do they have to "fix" them?
This is hogwash. We know they played with the numbers. Zogby had Kerry over Bush by 3.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:29 PM
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4. It's all in those little black boxes... |
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Bev and everyone at BBV- we are counting on you guys-- NM was a Kerry state and we all know it.
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:30 PM
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isn't that close enough to require a recount?
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:59 PM
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Not sure what would trigger a recount, but by my calculations, 6000/740000 = 0.8% http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NM/P/00/index.html
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:21 PM
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Howaver, any canidate can request one. But the canidate pays, unless it changes the outcome of the election. http://www.electionline.org/site/docs/html/recount_provisions_-_part_1.htm
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:39 PM
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7. How can NM have a Democratic Govenor |
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and then vote for a Republican President. This is not intended to be critical --just answering the Question. Centrist Democrats can appeal to the very same constituency as Republicans. Look at Reid from Nevada. For example Richardson never fails to mention importance of Dems being for taxcuts. This is the Group in House and Senate that Republican Presidents go to for support among Democrats.
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:11 PM
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We got our Democratic governor, thankfully, because the Repub candidate was such a right-wing fundie whacko even repubs voted for Gov. Napolitano. BTW she rocks!
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:38 PM
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19. Napolitano for President 2008 |
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Fri Nov-12-04 09:50 PM
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8. You can have the people |
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vote fro a Dem. Govenor and Republican President. Expecially, when the Democrat is a Centrist as Bil Richardson is. Nevada's Harry Reid(Leader to be in Senate) is a Centist Democrat Bush won Nevada. They appeal to the same constituency.
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:32 PM
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17. Oklahoma same way.... |
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Reddest state in the nation and they have a Dem gov...
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:11 PM
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10. We worked our asses off for John Kerry in NM |
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On the morning of November 3 I saw a sticker on the back of a jeep.
It read: "Hitler would have been a liberal"
As I shook my head in disbelief at a stoplight, the driver looked over and used *'s "one finger victory salute". He had seen my Kerry/Edwards sticker.
All I feel is grim determination these days... and now it seems we have turned into a sickly red state. There is nothing I wouldn't do to stop these monsters.
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:19 PM
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12. Were you hanging out at Kerry headquarters on the 30th and the 1st? |
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Man, that rocked.... Di Caprio almost bumped into me as I was holding a 'V' pumpkin. I was one of the 'crazies' with my sign out on Central!!!
:toast:
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:21 PM
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15. I was at the Rio Rancho office |
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:22 PM
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21. Too bad, the Alb office was sooo hyped and READY. |
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it was really cool. Here in the Bay Area, things like that don't happen S of the City. It was nice to be home.
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:52 AM
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27. We had an unprecidented turnout of volunteers |
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It was a fine effort and a positive experience.
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Fri Nov-12-04 10:37 PM
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18. So write to Kerry and ask for a recount |
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What do you have to lose?
It's close enough.
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:53 AM
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:28 PM
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22. Hitler would have been a liberal |
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Yea, had his name been Franklin D. Roosevelt...Otherwise, he was just another stinking right-wing Conservative who
1) Faned the flames of the anti-this, anti-that 2) Was anti-Socialistic 3) Was militaristic (deified the military) 4) Was jingoistic and nationalistic
Spare me with the "German National Socialist Party" crap, because if NSDAP had really been "Socialist" then why did a "Socialist Party" exist at the time? And further were one of the first groups tossed into camps?
Hitler a Liberal? What a boatload of ignorant bunk.
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:55 AM
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29. Yeah, it's a monumentally ignorant claim |
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Fri Nov-12-04 11:37 PM
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23. I am afraid that "early" voting was a problem for us.. |
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What a delicious way to do it.. Hundreds of thousands of people chomping at the bit to vote against Bush.. "Invite" them to vote early...sequester their vaporvotes...exit polls show that they overwhelmingly voted for Kerry...
Those are "rabble-rousers" who won't have to be "dealt with" on election day..and there will be no way for them to even know if their early votes were ever counted..
They placated the eearly voters..that's it..
In FL, the early voting (almost a THIRD of the total voter base) favored Kerry by 30%...
we "tipped our hand" by voting early.. repubes read polls too :(
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:09 AM
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24. About the exit polling... |
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what time of day did that stop? the early exit polls seem to show Kerry with big margins in some places, in places where he ultimately lost. Did the exit polling actually change over the course of the day (and I'm not talking about the networks' "adjustment" of numbers, but of actual exit polls) or did the exit polling cease in, say, early afternoon, and only after it ceased did the vote totals start shifting?
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:27 AM
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25. I believe it was around 5:30 pm EST..but some articles have said 7:30 |
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time zones may have aggravated the problem..
5:30 eastern is mid afternoon here in the west.
Polling...ALL polling should be illegal..
Let the people decide on their own..
Exit polling might be ok, but the people doing it, should have their data locked up until AFTER all the votes are counted.. Even Hawaii..even the provisional..
If exit polling is useful, it's as a "proof" that the vote-count was reasonable
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Sat Nov-13-04 12:34 AM
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26. Of course early voter exit polls favor Kerry |
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That's when all the welfare queens are voting. The "real 'murikins" have jobs, so they vote late. And their votes count.
<sarcasm off>
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Sat Nov-13-04 01:56 AM
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31. results aren't official until 11/23 according to their web site |
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