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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:09 PM
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"Democrats requesting vote recount in 9th District" - Indiana
Democrats requesting vote recount in 9th District
http://www.courierpress.com/ecp/news/article/0,1626,ECP_734_3325928,00.html

By KEN KUSMER Associated Press writer
November 13, 2004

INDIANAPOLIS - The Indiana Democratic Party requested a recount in the 9th District U.S. House race lost by Rep. Baron Hill amid questions over whether optical-scan voting systems used by some counties recorded straight-party votes erroneously.

The Indiana Recount Commission called an emergency meeting Friday afternoon to impound election materials in both that race and in the Indiana House District 9 race won by incumbent Rep. Scott Pelath, D-Michigan City.

Hill, who lost to Republican challenger Mike Sodrel by 1,485 votes in the Southern Indiana congressional district, filed for the recount after a recount Thursday in Franklin County showed about 600 straight-Democratic Party votes had gone to Libertarians in initial tabulating.

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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:15 PM
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1. kick !
:kick:


:hippie:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:16 PM
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2. KICK
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:21 PM
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3. I live in one of those 11 counties and I hope Baron can pull it off.
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 09:35 PM by shesemsmom
I have been busy telling those right wing religious zealots that they ousted a good decent deeply religious man who is the member of the Nazarene church for crying out loud.Has been all his life. They put him out for a rich liar. I hope they are all happy. If they are they wont be by the end of Sodrels 2 years.:dem: Good luck to Baron I hope he comes up with 2000 more than he needs!!!!!!!!!!
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 03:30 PM
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17. I'm in the 9th district as well,
Edited on Sun Nov-14-04 03:32 PM by megatherium
and I voted straight party line. I wasn't in the mood to decide if there was a good Republican or a bad Democrat on the ballot, on November 2nd I was a yellow-dog Democrat. It freaks me out to think my vote might have been miscounted as Republican.

Less than 1500 votes separates Hill from Sodrel. The national Republican party decided that my congressional district was the most vulnerable in the nation and they sunk 2.5 million dollars into it. The Democrats were able to counter with 2.1 million. Sodrel ran a "values" campaign: his literature highlighted issues such as gay marriage.

This Sodrel guy has no college degree, and he goes to the local megachurch, Southeast Christian. Southeast Christian has 18,000 members and a church building complex resembling an airport terminal, with an annual budget of $20 to $30 million. It's a fundamentalist evangelical church (Biblical literalist/inerrantist). This church put billboards all over the Louisville area saying God's plan for marriage is one man one woman. Their last three sermons before the election talked about sexuality and marriage. (By the way, the anti-gay-marriage amendment in Kentucky passed 75% to 25%.)

And unless a recount changes the outcome, I'm afraid we'll never dislodge this freak. We'll have to put up with him for the rest of his or our natural lives. This seems to be what has happened in Louisville, where the very conservative Anne Northup has held her seat for three terms after defeating a (lackluster) liberal. She creamed her latest opponent.

On edit: typo.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:21 PM
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4. Associated Press! n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:25 PM
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5. When they recount from a straight Dem ticket screw up, I don't understand
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 09:26 PM by Pirate Smile
why they wouldn't look at all races to give accurate numbers. I would like to see the truth not just ignore it if it wont change the outcome of the election.

edit to add - like in the districts in NC where they may have to revote. If the votes for the presidency disappeared also, why wouldn't they include that and include the new numbers in their adjusted totals?
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shesemsmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:33 PM
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7. Oh no not that way
Recounts mean just that they will RECOUNT EVERYTHING. I just got a call from the county attorneys wife. She just spoke with Mrs. Baron (Betty) Hill and she says that it will be ALL 11 counties. All machines and paper work is being impounded. Some as we chat. I understand that recounts are , to quote some one who knows, BRUTAL> Wish us luck:bounce: I am so excited!!!!!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:49 PM
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11. I understand the recounts. The re-vote is something they are considering
in NC where 4000 votes got eaten - they are gone. So the races won by less then that are a big ?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:19 PM
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14. It is nice to hear they are impounding everything. I wish they were
impounding all of this equipment everywhere.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:27 PM
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6. Drip, Drip, Drip..... if Kerry came out we could have a flood
I sincerely hope the Big League Dem's are paying attn.
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:46 PM
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9. I'm sure they're watching everything like hawks.
Both sides, but the Dems for sure.

This was an A/P article, which means it's on the news wires (aka: is a "legitimate" news source). And don't forget, both Kerry and Edwards are/were lawyers. Never underestimate the power of a lawsuit to a lawyer. (Yes, even the good guy lawyers love a good lawsuit.)

Besides, do you think anyone could go through what they went through for the last year and not be following every scrap of news? I doubt it. Just look at us DUers. We've been following it on line the whole time, but most of us haven't been on the road with the candidates and that grueling life immersion experience. Yet we're following event very closely (some of us even a little obsessively). I'm sure they're on this.
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ally_sc Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:42 PM
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8. great
hello...
it is good to know that nobody has given up on the recounts. I imagine their are lost votes everywhere...sad! peace out
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:48 PM
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10. Welcome to DU, ally_sc!
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:04 PM
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15. Hi ally_sc!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:50 PM
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12. Keep recounting
More and more evidence that our counting votes in this country is seriously flawed especially where machines are involved. Optical-scan or BBV they all have tabulation errors that stink.

Sonia
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:52 PM
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13. No election in which electronic voting devices are used is legitimate.
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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 02:40 PM
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16. bring back paper ballots!
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bin.dare Donating Member (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-04 07:28 PM
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18. checking WI and MI also
http://www.jconline.com/election/stories20041113/200411130election1100322817.shtml

"Fidlar, however, also is verifying programming of its optical scan equipment in Wisconsin and Michigan, which, like Indiana, have straight-party voting, Vern Paddock of Fidlar technical support told the Palladium-Item of Richmond.

The Franklin County problem does not call into question any results in Wisconsin or Michigan, Bill Barrett, national sales manager for Fidlar, said Friday."

what else would Barrett say? BTW Fidlar sells Diebold equipment.

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