U.S. soldiers treat wounds of foreign fighters in Fallujah

[Rose Siding]

FALLUJAH, Iraq - On a dusty field outside Fallujah, where wounded American soldiers were rushed off the battlefield, a young Sudanese man lay bleeding and trying to talk his way out of trouble.
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The troops who brought Khalid in said he and the three other foreigner fighters lying on field stretchers were found with weapons in a covered ditch. A Marine Corps intelligence sergeant, who wouldn't give his name, said the men "came out of their holes and just surrendered."

There was no talk here about video footage that purportedly shows an American Marine killing a wounded insurgent, an incident that Marine officials are investigating. Military personnel here didn't know about the video or the incident.

The conversation focused on how different a wounded American's treatment might have been had he been captured in a city where Western kidnap victims were videotaped having their heads cut off with large knives.

"Undoubtedly if any of them had gotten any of us, the situation wouldn't be the same," said 1st Lt. Gregory McCrum, a battalion medical officer for the Army's 1st Infantry Division. "I don't know what their fellow insurgents tell them or what the Arab media tells them, but certainly we don't rape women and children and torture them."

http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/10197145.htm

[VegasWolf]

1. Using that new fangled surgical instrument, the M16.

[AdollarTwoNintyEight]

3. Cite please

Link to the debunking of this story?

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[AdollarTwoNintyEight]

7. I support the troops

I also don't believe they use M16s to treat wounds like the poster I responded to implied. Do you?

[Hey Zeus]

8. i refuse to answer

on the grounds that i will be accused of being a freeper.

[Forkboy]

Awww...poor Zues

:nopity:

[Redleg]

33. It's Zeus, not Zues.

LOL

[Minstrel Boy]

9. Here's the application of the magic bullet

Note the exemplary bedside manner.

[henslee]

27. Light streaming in, corpses in f.g.. It's awfully Kubrickian.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. WWI. WWII. Korea. Vietnam. The First Gulf War. Afghanistan. Iraq....

...and numerous other conflicts in which we've participated.

Now that you have your clues, YOU dig up the citations. They're out there and you don't even have to work very hard to find them.

By the way, if you can't recognize unadulterated propaganda by now, you never will.

[ParanoidPat]

2. Watch out for that anesthetic!

It's a killer! :(

[AdollarTwoNintyEight]

4. Right...there's no chance our troops could do any thing good.

Not funny.

[Name removed]

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[Minstrel Boy]

12. German troops handed out sweets to French children,

were polite in cafes and treated the wounds of POWs.

So don't try telling me the Wehrmacht couldn't do anything good.

[NCN007]

14. that shows you

that soldiers can be good human beings no matter their leadership. Nothing else. Fallujah is not a place most people (myself excluded) would want to be right now, but its also not genocide

[Minstrel Boy]

15. I don't call it genocide, but I do call it an atrocity.

Also, a war crime.

As many feel-good stories as you can find, that's what it remains.

[NCN007]

22. Even if the war is wrong

Fallujah in and of itself is no different from any other battle in any other war, the military does not make the distinction, it just fights. Look up Jus ad Bellum and Jus en Bello. Bush is concerned with the first, the Marines and Army with the second.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

28. Except that the weapons being used...such as 2000 lb bombs....

...make absolutely NO distinction between killing insurgent Iraqis in a strongpoint and killing an unknown number of innocent Iraqi civilians who had no place to hide within the 4000 foot killing radius.

Spare me the platitudes, pal...let's just deal with reality, okay?

[NCN007]

32. Im interested in where you get your information

on the kill radius. More importantly though, why do we have Marines on the ground in Fallujah in the first place if we dont care to make the combatant/civilian distinction? It would be a lot easier, cheaper, and safer to just level the city with airstrikes than send in the infantry and expose them to hostile fire. These men are risking their lives to kill the enemy AND keep iraqi civilians safe at the same time.

[Forkboy]

19. "So don't try telling me the Wehrmacht couldn't do anything good."

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[YDogg]

5. Right, soldier ...

"I don't know what their fellow insurgents tell them or what the Arab media tells them, but certainly we don't rape women and children and torture them."

:wtf:

[NCN007]

11. Its nice to know that

someone in the media actually cares about this, the good deeds that soldiers do on a day to day basis, and dont just focus on the one potentially bad apple from the mosque.

[VegasWolf]

13. When 100,000 Iraqi citizens are dead because of an illegal

war, it's hard for a few choclates to even out the score.

[sandnsea]

16. And that bad apple President

And those bad apples at Abu Ghraib. We wouldn't be outraged if we had any inclination something like Abu Ghraib or the mosque could be perpetrated by Americans in the first place. Let alone a war based on lies.

[NCN007]

21. my current position

doesnt afford me an opinion on whether or not we should be in Iraq. The mock-solders at Abu Ghraib should be put in a prison cell in the depths of leavenworth and never again see the light of day. Their officers too. I didnt doubt that something like that could be perpitrated by Americans, and neither did the military. The Marines new motto for Iraq? No better friend, no worse enemy. Tell me they didnt see these incidents as a likely problem.

[Coconut Buddha Ape]

17. Okay... so the media focuses on the good things we do...

then what?

What do you think the Imams, or other spiritual and political leaders will focus on? American troops handing out candy? Or executing the wounded and disarmed in a religously significant place?

If we are to avoid looking like the brutal occupiers that people throughout the middle east predicted we would be, we need to stop doing shit like this--ignoring it or brushing it under the carpet isn't good enough.

[VegasWolf]

20. Getting the hell out is the answer. The longer we stay in this

illegal war, the more hatred we will engender.
Damn shame awol is such a complete moron, but
what do you expect with a 2.35 GPA. Oil and
petrobucks are whats behind this war. All the choclates
in the world will not help.

[Judi Lynn]

18. Reminds one of a man who brutalizes his wife

then buys her a new flyswatter as a peace offering. Smooth.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

29. Oh, please...how gullible can one get?

[bemildred]

23. Entirely a coincidence that we are being fed this now.

Nothing whatever to do with the summary execution tape.
All of a sudden we just love injured "insurgents".
:puke:

[sr_pacifica]

25. Right. Nice little piece of propaganda. n/t

[Media_Lies_Daily]

24. Mmmmm, good propaganda!! May I have another?

[OutsourceBush]

30. "don't rape women and children and torture them"

No, we just bomb women and children into little pieces, it is much more humane.







http://www.BigTentDemocrats.com

[Charlie Brown]

31. Sorry we shot you and killed all your friends.

Now that we're dressing the wounds we inflicted on you, doesn't that really make you want to bury the hatchet?