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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:20 PM
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Unusual Suspects:What happened to the women held at Abu Ghraib?
The government isn’t talking. But some of the women are.
from the american prospect magazine
http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=9044

"Nabil is a 37-year-old human-rights lawyer"
~~snip~~
"He was arrested on September 28, 2003, and held at various detention facilities, including Abu Ghraib, until May 28, 2004. A military official confirms that Nabil was released from Abu Ghraib on that date"
~~snip~~
"Sometimes I could hear screams and shouts. Women were calling for mercy. There were also children between the ages of 10 and 12. The children became hysterical. I was told the women were tortured in front of their children. One day, a sheik came back from a medical clinic where he’d been treated. He was in tears. ‘What happened?’ we asked. He told us he had seen a young girl, 15 years old, with internal bleeding. She had been raped over and over again by the soldiers, and she could no longer talk"

"Under such circumstances, rape is difficult to prove. Yet reports of sexual abuse and exploitation have crept into government documents. On October 7, 2003, American soldiers held a female detainee’s hands behind her back, forced her to her knees, “kissed on the mouth,” and removed her blouse, according to a Commander’s Report of Disciplinary or Administrative Action. Major General Antonio Taguba reported on the “videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees” in his May 2004 report on detainee abuse. In their August 25, 2004, report examining the role of military intelligence, Major General George R. Fay and Lieutenant General Anthony R. Jones describe “Incident No. 38,” in which “a criminal detainee housed in the Hard Site was shown lifting her shirt with both her breasts exposed. There is no evidence to confirm if consensual or coerced; however in either case sexual exploitation of a person in U.S. custody constitutes abuse.”"

"A former diplomat who attended the UN General Assembly in New York in December 2001 (“I had an administrative job,” he says), Nabil says he was forced to hear the cries of women during his own interrogations. “I feel this was part of the psychological warfare on me,” he says. “They told me, ‘You are a diplomat. You once visited countries as a VIP and had diplomatic immunity. This means nothing to us. And we will prove it to you. Everything you have heard about the concepts of democracy, liberty, religious tolerance, and human rights -- you can throw them away,’” he says. He grabs a handful of air and pretends to toss something over his shoulder. “They said, ‘We are above the law. We have no limits. They call us the special ops. No one has power over us -- not even President Bush. If someone dies during interrogation, that is normal.’”"

its a long and detailed article

its in the name of democracy,
its in our name
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:26 PM
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1. And then they were found innocent and set free.
Edited on Mon Jan-24-05 09:27 PM by the dogfish
Almost makes me wonder if it's not part of the plan. Infuriate the Iraqis, cultivate violence and hostility, so that we have an excuse to stay indefinitely.

The Bush presidency is a cancer in the world.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 09:30 PM
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2. Reports like these are coming out too frequently to be ignored
After seeing the photos of bushie approved torture -- this report doesn't seem out of line.

This is disgusting -- and it seems that the creeps doing this can't be identified nor held accountable.

I don't know if America can ever recover her reputation after being raped by the bushie gang.

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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-24-05 10:02 PM
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3. n/t
:cry: for the woman and girls there. It will all come out. Or they wi;; have to kill all of them.
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