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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:09 AM
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Insult to injury (Some soldiers pay for meals at Walter Reed)
Some wounded soldiers back from Iraq are having to pay for meals at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Veterans' groups say it's another symptom of fighting a costly war on the cheap.

Most patients at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington have a lot on their minds: the war they just fought, the injuries they came home with, the future that lies ahead. The last thing a wounded soldier needs to worry about is where the next meal is coming from. But for hundreds of Walter Reed patients, that's a real concern. Starting this month, the Army has started making some wounded soldiers pay for the food they eat at the hospital.

Paying out of pocket for hospital meals can impose a serious financial burden, costing hundreds of dollars every month. That can be a lot of money to a military family. But perhaps worse, the meal charge feels like an ungrateful slap in the face to some soldiers. "I think it sucks," said a soldier from West Virginia who broke his neck in Iraq after falling off a roof. "I think that people should be able to eat. They get us over there, get us wounded and shot up and then tell us: Fend for yourself. You are all heroes, but here you go."

Whether it is the lack of protective armor for troops in the field or, now, wounded troops paying for food, complaints from soldiers have shed an unflattering light on how the military bureaucracy takes care of its troops. And they have prompted accusations that the Pentagon is fighting the Iraq war on the cheap, no matter what the cost to soldiers. The meal charge policy "is an example of a much larger problem relating to the overall cost of the war. It is all an indication of extreme costs they are trying to make up on the backs of these men and women," said Steve Robinson, a retired Army Ranger and the executive director of the National Gulf War Resource Center. "If the war is costing too much, the one place you don't skimp is on soldier and veteran programs. The administration has no problem deficit-spending on the needs of conducting war, and we see no reason not to apply the same methodology to veterans' benefits and soldier care."

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For its part, the Army explains -- and defends -- the food charges at Walter Reed by saying they apply only to some outpatients, not inpatients confined to hospital beds. "I have been absolutely assured ... that no inpatient has been charged for meals," Walter Reed spokesman Don Vandrey told Salon. But until Jan. 3, outpatient soldiers who served in Iraq or Afghanistan ate for free in the chow hall. Now outpatient soldiers there longer than 90 days pay for meals in cash. Although Walter Reed did not disclose the exact number of soldiers affected, the policy is most likely to affect at least the estimated 600 soldiers getting long-term outpatient care at the hospital in what the Army calls "medical hold."

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http://salon.com/news/feature/2005/01/27/walter_reed/index.html
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:14 AM
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1. I thought we caught them and stopped that.
It's still going on?

This is an outrage. We owe them, not the other way around.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:31 AM
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2. I guess that's where the 80 billion is going to....
Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 12:34 AM by chookie
Let's see -- we've sunk about $200 billion into this so far -- and will soon be up to $300 billion -- and these guys STILL aren't getting fed?

Remember when Bush blamed the lack of body armor and armor for vehicles on KERRY? Fucking Bush STARTS this war, has his flying monkeys laugh at us because we warn its going to be more expensive and difficult and dangerous (not to mention meaningless)-- and when OUR forecasts come true -- he has the fucking audacity to claim whatever is going wrong is someone else's fault.

Anyone who thinks the $65 billion, and now this $80 billion are going to the troops, to make their jobs easier, or even DOABLE -- well, ha ha. Heaven only knows where our fortune is being siphoned off to -- but best guesses is that it is going to the worst and most corrupt among us. But Bush will CLAIM it's going to the soldiers and moms and dads and little innocent babies and freedom and liberty, etc

The longer we let them go on, the deeper they will bury us, and the longer it will take to dig our way out.

Opposition party, anyone? (crickets chirping)

I see -- according to the Democrats and sane Republicans, this is a time for moral men to do nothing....

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Stepup2 Donating Member (396 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 12:40 AM
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3. This is an issue that
needs to be on the front page.

Many of the people who have volunteered for service in the military are the least likely to have any extra money for food, much less the money they undoubtedly need to fill in the gaps for the health care services they need to get well.

:argh:
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 01:06 AM
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4. Jesus Christ
is this for real. They take them from college. Promise they money so they can get an education. And if they injure. Ignore them. Damn is this USA today.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:29 AM
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5. This is just disgusting...
to think that some soldiers are getting a FREE MEAL off of the taxpayers just because they lost a leg or something. I mean for crying out loud! If they were injured, its their fault for being careless. Here these guys are sitting around, bothering nurses, wasting everyone's time and they aren't even killing any Muslims! This is government welfare, giving out free meals to soldiers who aren't even spreading freedom!

Just another example of government waste!
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:41 AM
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6. you'd think a great war time prez wouldn't allow this...
i bet the boy king never paid for a meal while he was defending the offices of republican politicians during the great VC offensive against alabama during the vietnam war.

i thought we supported our troops? what about all those yellow ribbons they sell at quikchek? where's that money going? i see them all over cars with "W'04" stickers? wha' happened?????????
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 09:54 AM
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7. The epitome of compassionate conservatism supporting the troops
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 10:12 AM
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8. I thoguht it was bad they wouldn't give them free long distance.
And now they're charging them for food?

Jesus.

Among other things, this is a labor issue. The U.S. Army is an employer. It has hired these people to do what has to be one of the most dangerous jobs on the planet. The very least it should be responsible for doing is taking care of people who get injured on the job. I mean if anyone deserves workers' comp, it's these guys. Shouldn't they be on a health plan that covers this?

Oh, wait, I forgot. The Army's CEO is an insane tightwad who had his ability to empathize with human suffering surgically removed because it was impeding his career.

@#$!,

The Plaid Adder
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 11:58 AM
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9. "Outpatient's" Correct me if I'm wrong
So much going on it is hard to keep track of it all but, wasn't it previously reported that many of the wounded troops from Iraq who had been initially hospitalized at Walter Reed Army Medical Center and then released and classified as out-patients, whose specific injuries required daily treatments to be continued at Walter Reed.

Families were complaining that these injured troops have to find their own housing accomodations within the DC area, which is paid by the wounded trooper and/or his family so they can return daily to Walter Reed for treatments. I wonder if they are required to take buses, taxi's, etc., for these daily trips and if they pay for this also.

Let's see, George's inauguration, cost $45 million plus. Friends/Rangers of the POTUS flew in private corporate jets, with limos waiting to drive them to their luxurious quarters. Donald Trumps lavish wedding party in Florida, attended by every News Media celebrity in the Country: Barbara Walters, Chris Mathews, etc., etc., etc., arriving in corporate jets, waiting limo' on call to drive them to the elaborate festivities.

Something is very wrong with these pictures? If we pay attention, we damn well know who is paying the ultimate sacrifice. I want to know what personal sacrifice other Americans are paying specifically those that seem to be benefitting the most?
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-05 02:09 PM
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10. But they got to go to a Ball! And warned not to whine to the press.
"The soldiers interviewed for this story asked for anonymity because they feared getting into trouble with their chain of command for speaking out. Many soldiers from Walter Reed attended the Heroes Red, White and Blue Inaugural Ball last week, attended by Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz and others. Soldiers told Salon they were lectured on the bus on the way to the ball that they would face consequences if any untoward comments about the military appeared in the press. One soldier said he and others were told that they should not feel compelled to speak with reporters, but if they did, they would be in their commander's office in the morning if they said anything negative."
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