Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Democrats in Denial

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU
 
papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:31 PM
Original message
Democrats in Denial
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47775-2005Jan29.html

Democrats in Denial

By Steven Rattner
Sunday, January 30, 2005; Page B07

In his 1998 State of the Union address, President Bill Clinton waved his pen at the assembled Congress and declared that we must "save Social Security first." Democrats have since generally clung to that vision.

But now, in an ill-conceived effort to derail President Bush's privatization initiative, many prominent Democrats are suddenly dismissing the notion of a Social Security crisis or even a Social Security problem. Instead of offering sensible alternatives to the president's flawed proposals, Democrats are devoting their energies to attacking both the president's ideas and any notion of altering the Social Security construct. <snip>

We should not shirk from raising more revenue for Social Security, by such means as moving up the cap on annual earnings subject to the tax, now at $90,000. That would be highly progressive, particularly if we put the money into a true trust fund -- one that would represent a new form of desperately needed national savings.

The move toward a real trust fund would be facilitated by investing some of the Social Security surplus in stocks and bonds instead of allowing the money to be spent and replaced by the pile of IOUs.

Broadening the investment mandate of Social Security, as Clinton proposed, would have a further benefit: higher returns, which in turn would reduce the amount of additional revenue needed to maintain current benefit levels -- the closest thing to a free lunch. <snip>

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:34 PM
Response to Original message
1. dems should definitely try to "raise taxes"
by moving the SS cap up to say, 150k.

it will prove so popular with "the average american" (who thinks their income just MIGHT go over 90k some day) & difficult for the GOP's media lapdogs to spin in a negative light.

with friends like steve rattner...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. The should raise the SS cap to as high as they need to solve
the 'crisis'. Why most people pay SS taxes on 100% of their income and millionares pay on less than 10% of theirs??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:40 PM
Response to Original message
2. I agree and there is more!
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 12:41 PM by Vinnie From Indy
Why the Democrats are not taking down one of the BushCo. talking points concerning "personal accounts" by pointing out that 401k programs are currently available as "personal accounts". At the very least, the Democrats should highlight the potential danger of the BushCo plan to all those holding 401k accounts. They should frame this aspect of the debate along the lines of "if you support BushCo.'s SS plan, kiss your 401k earnings goodbye." People will protect what they do have with greater ferocity than what they don't have.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:01 PM
Response to Original message
3. Instead of offering sensible alternatives to attacking Iraq,
anti-war groups are devoting their energies to attacking both the president's ideas and any notion of altering the existance of Weapons of Mass Destruction.

How I despise this construct used by Rattner. Bah!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 01:35 PM
Response to Original message
4. Wasn't Clinton talking about saving SS from the Republicans,
who controlled House and Senate, and were even then talking about privitization?

Or am I mis-remembering?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Editorials & Other Articles Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC