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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:15 PM
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Bernie Sanders; How to defeat a party that represents 1% of the electorate
This is a great piece by Bernie...definately worth pondering.

http://www.fightingbob.com/article.cfm?articleID=109

here is a snippet

Now, given the fact this administration is composed of millionaires and that they work day and night in the best interests of the rich and the large corporations, how do they get elected? How does it happen that George Bush is president, that right wing Republicans control the Senate and the House, as well as governors' chairs and state legislatures from one end of the country to the other?

In a nutshell, the goal of the right wing leadership of the Republican Party is fairly simple. In order for them to win elections and to have tens of millions of Americans voting against their own best economic interests, it is necessary for them to create wedge issues and to divide Americans up on the basis of gender, race, religion, sexual orientation, whether they are native-born or immigrant, or whether they live in rural or urban communities. The Republican right wing and their pollsters spend millions of dollars a year trying to figure out how they can play off the fears and anxieties of the American people so that they will turn on each other, rather than focusing on the real causes of our problems and how we, as a people, can come together and solve them.

(snip)

The United States is the only industrialized nation on earth that does not have a national health care system guaranteeing health care to its people. More than 41 million people are uninsured, tens of millions are underinsured, and we pay the highest prices in the world - by far – for prescription drugs. And in the midst of all this, we spend twice as much per capita on health care as any other nation.

And while our health care system disintegrates even further with huge increase in health insurance premiums, while elderly people die because they cannot afford the cost of prescriptions, the Republican Party's answer to this crisis is a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriages.

The men and women who have served this nation in the armed services and who have come back wounded in body or spirit find themselves increasingly abandoned by the federal government. The promises made in terms of health care and other benefits have been abandoned. And what is the Republican Party's answer to the unconscionable way our veterans are treated? Of course, it is a Constitutional amendment to protect the flag.

And on it goes. On issue after issue, the Republicans have no real answer. At best they ignore the problems facing working families. More often, however, they are making them worse and doing their best, with millions of dollars in corporate money and a compliant corporate media, to focus the American people's attention on distractions. It is a well-funded, divide-and-conquer strategy that is all too often successful.

What progressives need to do to beat them is to take the opposite approach. Because we actually do represent the interests of the vast majority of Americans, we need to keep the focus on the real issues confronting our nation: the need for a national health care system, a trade policy that exports products not jobs, a sane environmental program, affordable and quality education at every level.

We need to build a movement of the great majority of Americans around a message of economic justice. Granted, in a pluralistic society there may be some differences among us on social or other issues. But we cannot let those differences tear our coalition apart because that is exactly what the Republicans want and need if they are to stay in power. Our job is to keep our eye on the prize of creating an America that guarantees every man, woman, and child a decent standard of living. In the wealthiest nation in the history of the world, that is not too much to ask.





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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:31 PM
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1. Now here's a Man who would be a great President.......
Articulate
Wise
Compassionate
knowledgeable

in short, just the opposite of what we have now.


Mr.Bush Baud Man! He Vedy, Vedy Baud Man !!
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Concinnity Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 11:52 PM
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2.  I like some of what he says but......
as a health care professional for 20 years, I take exception to the notion that 1) people are denied medical care that need it because they can't pay for it (with the exception of hugely expensive precedures like heart transplants and the like) and 2) that we have a health care system that is somehow inferior to European nations. Have you ever visited a doctor in France? My sister has. She lived there in the early 90s. She said you needed to earmark 4 to 5 hours for a simple visit. And another thing. Do you know what country it is that all the very ill world leaders and rich foreigners flock to? I'll give you a hint. The Mayo clinic isn't in Europe. King Hussein and the Shah or Iran and countless other privileged world leaders came right here to the U S of A.
So yes, while our system needs improvement, it is far and away the best medical system in the world.
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 01:16 AM
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4. Would you deny this?
Edited on Sat Sep-13-03 01:18 AM by xray s
Health insurance premiums are now approaching $12,000 per year for family coverage. And, while premiums increase, benefits are being cut by raising deductables and co-pays while limiting choices for patients and physicians.

American families can be wiped out financially by one accident or long term debilitating illness.

8,000 of your fellow health care professionals have endorsed universal coverage under Medicare

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0813/p03s01-ussc.html?usaNav

And...my recent experience in the US had me waiting for 2 1/2 hours for a routine check up only to find out they forgot to tell me I needed to have a blood test drawn before my exam. And then there are those stories of doctors removing the wrong organs...so there are plenty of anecdotes and horror stories about health care screw ups to go around. No one country has a monoploy on them. I also know people who live in other countries, Canada and Sweden. They think our health insurance system (please note the distinction) is barbaric, and they would't think of trading their system for ours. In fact, one Canadian I know who lives in the US went back to Canada immediately after being diagnosed with a serious illness recently to avoid the high cost of US health care.

Oh...and I am sure every rich person in the world who can afford it flocks here for gold plated treatment. So what?

I think people who devotes their lives to providing health care to others are wonderful people. I also think we have some of the best doctors, medical technology and medical research in this country. But I also think the crazy system we have to pay for that health care has to be changed, before it bankrupts us all...

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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 06:16 AM
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9. I'm hearing some RW talking points here
You think people here in the good old USA DON'T wait "4 or 5 hours" to see a doctor?

And YES, I DO know people who have been denied medical care because they couldn't afford it. . . definitely. I know someone who was turned away from the emergency room here in Gainesville, Florida, because he hadn't been able to pay anything on a previous bill.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 09:59 PM
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15. And yet, they have longer lives than we do.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:09 AM
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3. I'm with you to the ramparts!
go bernie!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 02:07 AM
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 03:31 AM
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6. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out...
on second thought, let it hit you on the ass. You deserve it.

Buh-byyeeeeee!!
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 03:56 AM
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7. LOL
Hey, he went out in style all right.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 06:11 AM
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8. oooh, how daring!
a real martyr for the cause: registered solely for the purpose of telling off the commies for having the audacity, the unmitigated GALL to propose a bleepity bleep bleep bleepin "SOCIALIZED" HEALTHCARE PLAN!!

You have before you the very heart of the cheap-labor Republican conmen LIE: "Anyone with a good work ethic can obtain medical care in this country."

The whole post is one-line soundbyte lies that I've heard too many times on Bores and Limpballs. Brainwashed FOOLS.
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scarletlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 07:29 AM
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10. BULLS**T TO YOU SIR OR MADAM


Buy it at work! On minimum wage? Oh great so now I've got health insurance but no place to live or ability to buy food because my meager salary will not cover all of that.

What a bunch of crap. May I suggest that you go out and go to work at Wal-mart or somewhere that pays minimum wage, find yourself a decent place to live, and also sign up for health insurance.
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PBinOregon Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 10:49 AM
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11. The Whole Speech
Is fantastic. Please send it around. The good congressman says what needs to be said. We can't allow ourselves to be divided.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 12:10 PM
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12. guaranteed standard of living
I thought it was a great speech, and convincingly pointed out how the wealthy elite/republicans drive wedges of fear and ignorance between the American people in order to manupulate them into voting against their own best interests. But at the risk of being flamed, I have to take issue with his ending:

creating an America that guarantees every man, woman, and child a decent standard of living

My concern is that the term guarantee would be siezed upon by the RW fear-mongers as evidence that progressives are pushing for a big-government welfare state that pays people for not working. If this speech were ever to gain significant national attention, I fear the guarantee would provide an opportunity for RWers to discredit the entire message.

To some extent I'm quibbling about the wording of a single sentence in a speech with which I wholeheartedly agree, but I'm also pondering the concept of a guaranteed standard of living for every man, woman, and child. Even with the minimum wage elevated to a decent living wage, and an effective safety net, can we really guarantee a decent living for everyone?
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 07:55 PM
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13. You have a point....
Maybe it is better to say "guarantees every man, woman, and child an opportunity to earn a decent standard of living, and protects the well being of those that are too old or too sick to do so"

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Resistance Is Futile Donating Member (693 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:17 AM
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16. Not much better
There's really no way to get the concept of a just society past the eyes of the right wing because they simply don't believe in equality.

Conservatives are a breed of sociopaths who don't share anything even remotely resembling human values.
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Liberator_Rev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 08:09 PM
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14. For plenty of great material on US vs. Universal Health Care,
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