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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:10 AM
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In theocracy they trust (Confronting the Judicial War on Faith)
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Christian right leaders denounced separation of church and state and prayed for a judge's deliverance to Satan. And their Capitol Hill allies were right there with them.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/11/judicial_conference/index.html

Christian Reconstructionism calls for a system that is both radically decentralized, with most government functions devolved to the county level, and socially totalitarian. It calls for the death penalty for homosexuals, abortion doctors and women guilty of "unchastity before marriage," among other moral crimes. To be fair, Phillips told me that "just because a crime is capital doesn't mean you must impose the death penalty. It means it's an option." Public humiliation, he said, could sometimes be used instead.

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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:12 AM
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1. Another round in the war against women. TheoCons heading
for a big fall.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:27 AM
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4. yes they are -
the more bizarre they get the more nobody wants them or gives a damn about their vote.

They're never going to vote for liberals anyway, so there's no point in the Republicans worrying about their vote -- they're going to wake up and realize that they really don't have to make any promises to those creepy little people.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:21 AM
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2. Isn't it still against the law to plot or call for the downfall of US
Edited on Mon Apr-11-05 10:22 AM by BR_Parkway
civil gov't?

Rep. Todd Akin, R-Texas, shared the stage with prominent adherents of Christian Reconstructionism, a Calvinist doctrine that calls for the subordination of American civil law to biblical law.


Call me crazy (at least not the wingnut variety) but that sure sounds like they are trying to overthrow the legitimate US government. Isn't that a crime? High crime even? Impeachment...

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 10:24 AM
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3. the death penalty against homosexuals?
those people need to be rounded up and executed themselves. They are a danger to society and would like to destroy modern western civilization.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 11:12 AM
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GOPFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 12:20 PM
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6. Nope, it's all about politics
You write: "The recent media storm regarding Terry Schiavo has forced the country to more closely examine the limits of federal jurisprudence; and concurrently, raised awareness among the general public as to a nascent, liberal movement advocating euthanasia."

One of the right's favorite tactic is to take something like removing the feeding tube from a someone that has been in a PVS for over a decade and label it something really scary, like euthanasia, and then call it a liberal movement. BS! A lot of conservatives have faced similar situations and pulled the feeding tube, the DeLay family for instance.

The judicial decisions you are writing about were not decisions supporting euthanasia. They didn't break new ground or allow euthanasia where it hadn't been allowed before. What Michael Schiavo did was legal and has been done thousands of times before Terri's case.

This whole case was politically motivated and I'm surprised someone who writes such lengthy opinions doesn't see it. Cleansing the judiciary is the next item on the RW agenda and we're seeing it's opening rounds.
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LdyGuique Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 08:17 PM
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7. The agenda of the "Christian Reconstructionists" is not new
We assume that they want to keep the Constitution and plurality viewpoints. They don't. They want a Christian nation based on Biblical beliefs, and then a Christian world -- with a single government run on bibilical beliefs.

Time to start reading up on the enemy and its goals:

Start with the current Salon.com article: In theocracy they trust

Then, an overview of Dominionism can be found on ReligiousTolerance.org

There is a longer article on Religious Movements about Christian Reconstructionism

Make no mistake about it, these people are serious and well-funded. They are as doctrinally committed as the Islamic Fundamentalists who took over Iran or the Taliban in Afghanistan.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:10 AM
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8. at least one of these guys is in the government
J. Robert Brame III on the board of American Vision.

http://lists.uua.org/pipermail/pfor-l/20011129.txt
This link is a pre-nomination link.

I think that they are stuffing these people in small but influential positions of the government. Like everything else, done under the radar. Soon these people will be showing up mainstream.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 04:17 AM
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9. another one: William Pryor
As Attorney General of the state of Alabama, William Pryor — nominated by President Bush to a lifetime seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eleventh Circuit — has amassed a staggering record of hostility toward the rights and interests of ordinary Americans, including attacks on the authority of Congress to prohibit discrimination and to protect the environment, separation of church and state, reproductive freedom, and equal protection of the laws for gay men and lesbians.

http://www.pfaw.org/pfaw/general/default.aspx?oid=10911
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