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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:30 AM
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Deep Throat: COINTELPRO Spook and All-American Hero
What the corporate media isn't telling about Deep Throat:

http://kurtnimmo.com/blog/index.php?p=690
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:40 AM
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1. That changes the picture very little,
but it points to very useful information about Cointelpro.

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A statement released by the Reagan administration, dated April 15, 1981, commends Felt (and convicted felon Edward S. Miller, the one-time head of Squad 47, the domestic counterintelligence unit in the FBI’s New York Field Office; see Ward Churchill’s Wages Of COINTELPRO Still Evident In Omaha Black Panther Case) for serving “the Federal Bureau of Investigation and our nation with great distinction.” Felt and Miller believed “their actions were necessary to preserve the security interests of our country,” in other words violating the First Amendment rights of certain Americans (conscientious enough to actually petition the government for the redress of grievances) is patriotic. “America was at war in 1972, and Messrs. Felt and Miller followed procedures they believed essential to keep the Director of the FBI, the Attorney General, and the President of the United States advised of the activities of hostile foreign powers and their collaborators in this country.” Translation: the above mentioned citizens in opposition to an illegal (and undeclared) war were essentially “collaborators” for “hostile foreign powers,” presumably North Vietnam, a small and impoverished nation attacked by the United States (and, as with Iraq, the attack launched against the Vietnamese was predicated on a big fat lie, namely that the Vietnamese had attacked U.S. warships in the Gulf of Tonkin, revealed as a fabrication by Daniel Ellsberg, another “collaborator,” when he released the Pentagon Papers).
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Thanks.

pnorman

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:41 AM
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2. Here's more about Felt's background as a COINTELPRO dirty-trickster
He beat Nixon's own plummers in the political warfare department. Of course, he was a professional and they were mostly hired hands.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/COINTELPRO/newsline.html

<SNIP>
In Seattle, FBI agent Louis Harris recruited David Sannes in 1970,
a patriotic veteran who was willing to help them catch some bombers.
Sannes worked with explosives expert Jeffrey Paul Desmond and FBI agent
Bert Carter. Their instructions were to find people interested in bombing.
"For a few of the members it was a matter of many weeks of persuasion to
actually have them carry through with the bombing projects," said Sannes.
When Carter made it clear that he planned to have one bomber die in a
booby-trapped explosion, Sannes dropped his FBI work and went public.
"My own knowledge is that the FBI along with other Federal law enforcement
agencies has been involved in a campaign of bombing, arson and terrorism
in order to create in the mass public mind a connection between political
dissidence of whatever stripe and revolutionaries of whatever violent
tendencies," Sannes reported in an interview on WBAI radio.<9>

The situation in Seattle is merely one of many examples of the FBI's
campaign against the New Left. Two agents, W. Mark Felt and Edward Miller,
admitted to a grand jury that they had authorized illegal break-ins and
burglaries against friends and relatives of Weather Underground fugitives.
A 25-year FBI veteran, M. Wesley Swearingen, claimed that the FBI routinely
lied to Congress about the number of break-ins and wiretaps: "I myself
actually participated in more than 238 while assigned to the Chicago
office, conducted thousands of bag jobs." Swearingen charged that
agents had lied to a Washington grand jury about the number, locations, and
duration of illegal practices in pursuit of the Weather Underground.<10>
FBI director William Webster disciplined only six of the 68 agents referred
to him by the Justice Department. Felt and Miller were convicted in 1980,
and a few months later were pardoned by President Reagan. Today the FBI
can still use these same techniques, simply by mislabeling their targets
as foreign agents or terrorists.

In 1971 Congress finally repealed the Internal Security Act of 1950,
which provided for custodial detention of citizens whose names were on
lists of "subversives" maintained by the FBI. Over the years these lists
were expanded from Communist Party members, to all members of SDS and
other "pro-Communist New Left-type groups," and by 1970 even included
members of every "commune" where individuals reside in one location and
"share income and adhere to the philosophy of a Marxist-Leninist-Maoist
oriented violent revolution." Despite the repeal, the FBI simply changed
the names of the Security Index and Reserve Index to the "Administrative
Index," with the excuse that they were preparing for possible future
legislation. The FBI's continuation of these lists was authorized by
attorney general John Mitchell.<11>

The FBI also waged a war against the underground press. As early
as 1968 they assigned three informants to penetrate the Liberation News
Service (LNS), while nine others reported on it from the outside. These
reports were shared with the U.S. Army's Counterintelligence Branch, the
Secret Service, the Internal Revenue Service, the Navy, the Air Force, and
the CIA. The FBI set up Pacific International News Service in San Francisco
and New York Press Service on the east coast. When NYPS director Louis
Salzberg blew his cover by appearing as a government witness at the Chicago
Seven trial, the FBI's New York office tried to swing this in their favor
by preparing an anonymous letter denouncing LNS as a government front as
well. Other underground newspapers were handled more gently by the FBI,
by getting record companies to pull ads from their pages.<12>

<SNIP>B-) :bounce:
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 08:56 AM
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3. Puts a whole new spin on Deep Throat
Perhaps Felt simply thought the botched burglary was a sign of fatal incompetence in the executive branch, and as a professional found it his duty to undermine the administration.

So, in the end it was the turf war between the FBI and the political hacks in the White house which did Nixon in more than anything else.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 09:53 AM
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4. No, I would say that Richard Helms and J Edgar saw eye to eye
on several things. One was the need to get rid of Richard M. Nixon. Not because they disagreed with his politics, but because Nixon was a megalomaniac who demanded total control of the various, separate intelligence and internal policing fiefdoms. Nixon threatened the independence of the FBI and the CIA, alike.

The second Watergate break-in -- the one in which the Cubans got caught -- came on the anniversary of Helms and Hoover's rejection of the Huston Plan, which called for the White House to direct the Bureau and the Agency against Nixon's domestic political enemies. The guys at the top back then were smart and powerful enough to prevent that sort of centralization and politization. Those running the show at DHS today aren't.

Felt didn't act on his own initiative. Watergate was the result of a struggle much more important than a bureaucratic turf war. The agencies won that battle against the Imperial Presidency, but America eventually lost the war.
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 11:31 AM
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5. Very Interesting
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 11:32 AM by al bupp
It goes to show that even an ass-hat such as Hoover, certainly something of a megalomaniac himself, can have a good side, in so far is his own hunger for power, at least in part, led him to oppose Nixon's drive for an Imperial Presidency. Or do you think he & Helms were motivated by fundamental balance of power issues?

What does this say about the current situation, that no sufficiently powerful competing interests exist to defy emperor B*sh? Obviously there are some in the intelligence community who have an ax to grind w/ the administration, as illustrated by the various intelligence leaks in the last year which have put the administration in a poor light. Unfortunately the don't appear to be powerful enough to bring it down, as none of these leaks have matched the Pentagon Papers in thier Washington-shaking effect. We will have to wait and see if the Downing St. Minutes become such a catalyst.

Thanks for your little history lesson.

Cheers, al
:beer:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:27 PM
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6. Richard Ober headed the illegal suppression of US political dissent
at the CIA, it was known as MH CHAOS and carried the same level of security as USSR and PRC black operations.

Until Felt came forward as Deep Throat I thought it was Ober.

Richard Ober as Deep Throat link
http://www.textfiles.com/conspiracy/CN/cn09-42.txt
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 01:54 PM
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7. EXCLUSIVE... Jennifer Dohrn: I Was The Target Of Illegal FBI Break-Ins Ord
EXCLUSIVE... Jennifer Dohrn: I Was The Target Of Illegal FBI Break-Ins Ordered by Mark Felt aka "Deep Throat"

Mark Felt -- who was exposed this week as Deep Throat -- was one of only two FBI officials ever to be convicted for ordering COINTELPRO operations. In 1980 he was convicted for ordering FBI agents to break into the home of Dohrn and other associates of the Weather Underground. He was later pardoned by President Reagan. Jennifer Dohrn discusses the FBI surveillance, break-ins and a secret FBI proposal to kidnap her infant. Democracy Now! co-host Juan Gonzalez also reveals that as a leader of the Young Lords that he, too, was also a target of a similar FBI campaign.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/02/1445253
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 10:29 PM
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9. Un-eff-ing Believable...
A "secret FBI proposal to kidnap her infant". Now there's responsible police-work for you!

Thanks for the heads-up on this article.

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dbeach Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 02:34 PM
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8. bush sr benefitted from nixon demise..
Sounds like more psyche-ops form the busheviks..
Conspiracy science 101 {ha ha} knows Poppy O Bush was 'deep throat' but if this poor ole gent <91}was used by the busheviks..It don't surprise me.. Woodhead and Burnstein both tools of the secret DC govt have as much credibility as bush cheney [br />http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000939256

"NEW YORK The Washington Post late this afternoon confirmed that W. Mark Felt, the former FBI official, was legendary Watergate source "Deep Throat."
Following half a day of speculation set off by a report in the July issue of Vanity Fair, the final word came from Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, the two Washington Post reporters who broke the Watergate story, and their former top editor, Benjamin C. Bradlee. "

Washington post and facts are often opposites
"Welcome my son..welcome to the machine.." Pink Floyd

Criminals are up to a new crime..Whats it gonne be this time..??
stock scandals..sexcapades of the rich and infamous..nuke N Korea..???
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-03-05 06:33 PM
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10. Thanks al
:hi:
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