Greens Are the Real Energy Problem

[cdb]

Do these people really believe this tripe? Can't they think for themselves. What the fuck is the matter with them?? The author doesn't cite sources, dates or facts regarding "the greens"

Regardless of form — whether oil, gas, coal or nuclear — the Green movement is blocking efforts to harness our accustomed energy sources while leading us down the primrose path of so-called “renewable energy.”
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The Greens are also obstructing the importation of liquefied natural gas by blocking the construction of new port facilities based on fears that they would be terrorist targets.

-- I didn't get the memo on this one, did anybody else?--

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The energy crisis has arisen not because there’s a lack of sufficiently clean and affordable energy supplies — our problem is that we’ve allowed the Greens to have too much power.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158456,00.html

[BlueEyedSon]

1. If its FOX, it has to be SPIN. nt

[htuttle]

2. Ah yes, the 'all powerful Green Party'

Sure, the Greens run everything nowdays. That's why we have more mercury and arsenic on our water, more soot, sulfur and CO2 in our air, and why the US has been forced to implement the Kyoto protocol.

Greens run the country today, right?

:eyes:

[tk2kewl]

3. The LNG thing seems to be referring to a large facility proposed

for Long Island Sound. I'm not sure that opposing it is the right thing for the region right now, but I haven't given it enough thought. Googling "Long Island LNG" will give you a bunch of hits.

[MindPilot]

4. yeah, the atheists, teacher's unions, ACLU, and greens

control the entire country and have unstoppable power which is why christians are opressed, schools are grossly overfunded, and there are no conservative voices in the liberal media. :sarcasm:

[cdb]

6. Thanks for pointing that out--

I always thought it was the shadow government/corporate state, the military and the Southern Baptists running things. I forgot that we were living in an ecologically sound utopia for a minute there....

[Webster Green]

5. Whjat a load of bullshit....

Importing natural gas is incredibly complex, expensive and dangerous. That option would not do much to solve our energy problems.

ANWAR hasn't got that much oil, and most of it would likely be exported to other countries.

More lies and deceptions from faux snooze.

[hatrack]

10. Now, now - be nice to Faux News!

After all, the Washington Post reported today (and this was reported as "news") that Alaskan oil output has been declining since 1987.

Leave it to the Post to be right on top of breaking and important stories on energy policy. :puke:

Milloy, otoh, is at least forthright in his hackiness, much like his boss.

[SteppingRazor]

7. The Greens have too much power?!

That is the freaking height of absurdity. The Greens have ZERO power. Who's Congress gonna listen to? Big Business? Or a bunch of nobodies screaming, "No, you'll hurt the snail darter?"

The government doesn't give a damn abourt the environment, except where doing so makes for good publicity, or when not doing so makes for the opposite. Then, suddenly, the Sierra Club is their friend.

[MaineYooper]

8. the name on the byline should have been enough warning

Steven Milloy is a Mobil/Exxon financed right-wing hack sowing bulls*** and confusion to the uninformed masses. Remember his name, and avoid anything he writes in the future, unless it's for the purposes of keeping tabs on the opposition.

[Jack Rabbit]

9. I believe that renewable energy can work

And I believe that we are well beyond the point where keeping the fossil fuel industries on life support is at all helpful.

If you're going to try to convince anybody of anything here, at least you might try getting your facts from a reliable source. FoxNews is not a reliable source for anything except what the regime's line is at this moment.

[dummy-du1]

11. Mr. Milloy and his organisations shouldn't be taken too serious

Some links:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Steven_J._Milloy
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=CSR_Watch.com
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=JunkScience.com

A quote from the last link:

JunkScience.com is maintained by Steven J. Milloy, an adjunct scholar at the libertarian Cato Institute and a columnist for FoxNews.com. He defines "Junk Science" as "bad science used by lawsuit-happy trial lawyers, the 'food police,' environmental Chicken Littles, power-drunk regulators, and unethical-to-dishonest scientists to fuel specious lawsuits, wacky social and political agendas, and the quest for personal fame and fortune." He regularly attacks environmentalists and scientists who support environmentalism, claiming that dioxin, pesticides in foods, environmental lead, asbestos, secondhand tobacco smoke and global warming are all "scares" and "scams."

Milloy's attacks are often notable for their vicious tone, which appears calculated to lower rather than elevate scientific discourse. That tone is noticeable, for example, in his extended attack on Our Stolen Future, the book about endocrine-disrupting chemicals by Theo Colborn, Dianne Dumanoski and Peter Myers. Milloy's on-line parody, titled "Our Swollen Future," includes a cartoon depiction of Colborn hauling a wheelbarrow of money to the bank (her implied motive for writing the book), and refers to Dianne Dumanoski as "Dianne Dumb-as-an-oxski."

Prior to launching the JunkScience.com, Milloy worked for Jim Tozzi's Multinational Business Services, the Philip Morris tobacco company's primary lobbyist in Washington with respect to the issue of secondhand cigarette smoke. He subsequently went to work for The Advancement of Sound Science Coalition (TASSC), a Philip Morris front group created by the PR firm of APCO Worldwide.

Although Milloy frequently represent himself as an expert on scientific matters, he is not a scientist himself. He holds a bachelor's degree in Natural Sciences, a law degree and a master's degree in biostatistics. He has never published original research in peer-reviewed scientific journals. Moreover, he has made scientific claims himself that have no basis in actual research. Following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, for example, he claimed that greater use of asbestos insulation in the World Trade Towers would have delayed their collapse "by up to four hours." In reality, there is no scientific basis for claiming that asbestos would have delayed their collapse by even a second, let alone four hours.

LOL! So he's merely a fake scientist working as an industry lobbyist. I usually spot them instantly and then I check my guess via http://sourcewatch.org It's like a sport! ;)

[libodem]

12. ooohhhh, those radical arms of the Democratic party,

those, those, those...: *Environmentalists*...thats a dirty word ...like....Feminist....ooooohhhhhh