Waking to reality Bush numbers drop as Americans reject spin

[RamboLiberal]

http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/editorials/article/0,1713,BDC_2489_3847003,00.html

The Bush administration knows how to handle bad news: Change the subject.

When the president's military service was called into question in the 2004 campaign, his allies managed to tar the exemplary service record of John Kerry.

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In other words, the 56 percent of Americans who disapprove of Bush's Iraq war aren't just petty naysayers.

No doubt that the administration has something up its sleeve to counteract the plummeting polls. They're good at this stuff. Let's just hope it's not a military strike on, say, Iran.

But increasingly, Americans are refusing to be distracted when their own good sense tells them things aren't as great as the White House claims.

[oscar111]

1. "best argmnt 4 democrcy is 5 minute cnvrstn with an aristocrat"

Aristocrat.. Like Nazi Prince Harold of england --- says Oscar111
---this in reply to the sig of the OP.

{harlod is the son of P. Charles who recently went to a party dressed as Hitler, with a swastika armband}

I might add, to the list of aristocrats to chat with, the King of england about '35, who passed secrets to hitler.. later abdicated.. later commanded an Army unit {think he was a General, no less} , but DESERTED IN TIME OF WAR to go live in Nazi-controlled Vichey France for the duration of the war. What if Eisenhower had done that the night before D-Day?

A forgiving people, the english let him be the Duke of Windsor for the rest of his days. Later appeared on Johnny Carson. hmmmmmm Johnny hmmmmmm.

as for churchill, that old RW politico and hero of the far right, the "angry young men" of '45 or '46 booted him out .. and nationalized over nine key industries.

airlines, trucking, rail, electric, coal, gas, steel, telephone, banking, etc.

not sure when healthcare was nationalized, but it is the crown jewel of nationalization. Our longevity in the US is twenty-fifth.

Not much to admire in our health system. World's best health system by WHO ratings is France. Costs them less percapita than here. We are being ripped off.

WORLD HEALTH REPORT 2OOO, from the UN.

[nicholieeee]

2. my question is

why now?? why are the numbers dropping now, as opposed to 7-8 months ago?? honestly, not a lot's changed between then and now. anyone have any theories about this?

[oscar111]

3. WHY now? AAR is spreading

forty stations last i heard.

air america radio is spreading, and of course the increased time of broadcasting down the months in old areas should also be having more effect on opinion.

that is what has changed.

now, pls get aflcio and DNC to give grants to AAR for its further spread.

[NightOwwl]

4. Hmm....I seem to remember something...

Terra Alert! :nuke: Terra Alert! :nuke: Terra Alert! :nuke:

Funny, those stopped immediately following the election. Coincidence? I don't think so.

[Chipper Chat]

5. Bush went over the cliff with his cockeyed ideas on

social security. All the elders in my family thought he was nuts, and it just trickled down to the youngsters. Even right-wingers who have always kissed his butt and now turning their lips away.

[rodeodance]

6. Rep. Hunter doing the chicken talk was way way absurb to me. They

ARE getting desperate and do not realize how stupid they came across with that stunt (which was shown on cnn lots this weekend. I hear he was on one of the Sunday talk shows with the same pony show).

[rodeodance]

7. "US dragged down by news from Iraq"--this is prob. part of the answer.

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GF15Ak03.html

Jun 15, 2005


US dragged down by news from Iraq
By Jim Lobe

WASHINGTON - Readers of the Pentagon's Early Bird news file, a daily compilation of about 50 stories circulated throughout the US national-security bureaucracy, could be forgiven on Monday for reaching for the Rolaids, a popular over-the-counter medication for queasy stomachs.

As with last Friday's edition, Monday's lead stories all dealt with Iraq. Indeed, news about Iraq, which faded to the inside pages after Iraq's January 30 elections and stayed there well into the spring, has made a surprisingly strong comeback in the Early Bird of late, just like the Iraqi insurgency itself.

Monday's first story, from USA Today and headlined "Poll: USA is losing patience on Iraq", concerned the most recent Gallup survey, which found that nearly 60% of the public now favors a partial or complete withdrawal of US troops from Iraq in what the newspaper called "the most downbeat view of the war since it began in 2003".

Item number two, "Officers, military can't end insurgency", published in the Philadelphia Inquirer, began: "A growing number of senior American military officers in Iraq have concluded there is no long-term military solution to an insurgency that has killed thousands of Iraqis and more than 1,300 US troops in the last two years."...........

[rodeodance]

9. Lobe says people are reading the websites--there IS interest--need to

let it sink in I think.


.......What is clearer is that they are having a strong effect on public perception in America, where there has been a wave of interest in the leak. At least two websites, afterdowningstreet.org and downingstreetmemo.com, have been set up to draw public attention to the leaked minutes. The former received more than 1.6m hits on a single day last week (it averages above 1m a day) while the latter has been selling out of T-shirts bearing the legend: “Did you get the Downing Street Memo?” Last week the leaked documents stormed the mainstream US media when they were raised at a White House news conference, forcing Tony Blair and George Bush to address the issue.

[indepat]

8. But the number of Americans being distracted is staggering notwithstanding

their own good senses should be telling them disaster after disaster is being compounded coterminously by yet other disasters on a multitude of fronts in the rush to implement the full extreme RW PNAC agenda.

[rodeodance]

10. like someone else said--it needs to be repeated, repeated, repeated.