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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:29 AM
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Where's The Apology? Bending the Facts on Schiavo
Where's The Apology?
Bending the Facts on Schiavo

By E. J. Dionne Jr.

Friday, June 17, 2005; Page A31

We are entitled to our moral, ethical and philosophical commitments. We are not entitled to our own facts.

So why is this basic rule of argument often ignored by politicians whose certainty about their righteousness convinces them that they can say absolutely anything to further their causes?


The autopsy in the Terri Schiavo case provides a rare moment of political accountability. We should not "move on," as Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist suggested. No, we cannot move on until those politicians who felt entitled to make up facts and toss around unwarranted conclusions about Schiavo's condition take responsibility for what they said -- and apologize.

Nothing in the autopsy report prevents those who opposed removing Schiavo's feeding tube from continuing to insist they were right. It's legitimate and honorable to argue on philosophical grounds that every medical decision in a tragic circumstance such as Schiavo's should be made on the side of keeping the sick person alive.


Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601375.html


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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:32 AM
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1. nominated!
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Conker Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:37 AM
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2. Bill Frist should appologize.
He was wrong, which the Repubs are for most issues.Bill Frist even denied what he said about Terri Schiavo to the media.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:40 AM
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3. It takes honor and humility and sincerity to apologize
Something that constitution hating conservatives and the religiously insane know nothing about.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:44 AM
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5. as Frist said---yesterday==this chapter is closed
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:41 AM
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4. That reminds me - I owe Frist's office a call
And Delay's office as well.

I do love to call those guys!

:evilgrin:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:54 AM
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6. "Right-to-life politicians have done terrible damage to a serious cause."


.....Right-to-life politicians have done terrible damage to a serious cause. They claimed to know what they did not, and could not, know. They were willing to imply, without proof, terrible things about a husband who was getting in their way. Instead of making the hard and morally challenging case for keeping Terri Schiavo on life support, they spun an emotional narrative that they thought would play well on cable TV and talk radio.

No, we should not move on. We should remember that some politicians will say whatever is necessary to advance their immediate purposes. Apologies, anyone?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:55 AM
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7. he included DeLay's comments as well.


.......House Majority Leader Tom DeLay didn't pretend to be a doctor, just expert enough to know what was wrong with the news reports.

"Mrs. Schiavo's condition, I believe, has been at times misrepresented by the media," DeLay said on March 20. "Terri Schiavo is not brain-dead; she talks and she laughs, and she expresses happiness and discomfort. Terri Schiavo is not on life-support."


You wonder: Will DeLay now say to the media that he's sorry? Will he acknowledge that, in the Schiavo case, he honestly didn't know what he was talking about?
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 09:58 AM
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8. Don't forget to QUACK! n/t
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:12 AM
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9. Bushco always wants to "move on" after they've FUBAR'ed. n/t
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Puzzler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 10:43 AM
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10. They will never apologize...
... they (the Repugs) will never apologize about this ever. Sound familiar? This is the way they are with every issue.

I'm no expert, but isn't this type of behaviour similar to one of the traits of a psychopath?

-P
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 06:57 PM
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11. Another shameless punt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-17-05 07:11 PM
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12. Now Jeb Bush is back in the act. He needs to be relieved of his
position NOW. Go ahead, Floridians, get rid of him. The Bushes think they are a priviledged class of their own. We need to set them straight. In my mind they are nothing but white trash.
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