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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:16 PM
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Bush goes to UN while 74 vote to not fund the UN. I did not know this.
I admit I am dense on this. I just saw our leader go hat in hand to the UN while his party loyal voted to defund it? Am I not bright, or is this plain stupid.

John Birch Society, Putnam,gain in effort against UN
SNIP...."Congressman Ron Paul of Texas introduced an amendment to H.R. 1950, the Foreign Relations Authorization Act, which includes funding of the United Nations and its agencies. The amendment would have stopped all of our nation's funding of the United Nations.

The amendment failed to pass, but the significance is that the patient, gradual education program of The John Birch Society has reached the halls of Congress. No fewer than 74 informed and courageous U.S. representatives voted for the amendment. Among these were eight Florida representatives....."

One was Adam Putnam, and see this Editor's note for the others:
SNIP...."Editor's Note: Others from Florida voting for the amendment (all Republicans) were Reps. Michael Bilirakis of Tarpon Springs, Mario Diaz-Balart of Miami, Tom Feeney of Oviedo, Mark Foley of Lake Worth, Ric Keller of Orlando, Jeff Miller of Fort Walton Beach and Dave Weldon of Palm Bay......"




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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:21 PM
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1. I assure you
whatever you think of Ron Paul he is not a bush supporter.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:43 PM
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2. I don't know him. This was not about my liking him. This is about UN.
I was quoting from a letter to the editor. I was not expressing my opinion other than it was ironic that Bush was going to the UN for help while 7 Florida Republicans voted to stop funding it.

I am not that familiar with Ron Paul, and I did not say he was a Bush supporter. The LTTE mentioned his bill, I quote the LTTE. That is all.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 02:43 PM
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3. Oh, the John Birch society is mainstream...snark
btw, an O'Reilly shut up to them, too.

It's amazing to me that these folks see the ship is sinking, and think it's a good idea to rip up planks and hit each other in the head.

or something like that...

I hope all these John Bitchers are serving in Iraq right now, too. Make sure you sign up, anyone who supports getting rid of the UN...that means you, too, Ron Paul.

Make sure you send your sons and daughters there too.

They can take the place of soldiers there who know that we need a multi-lateral respect for other democracies.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:58 PM
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6. well RainDog

Ron Paul was against the invasion to begin with UN or no UN.

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:16 PM
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4. This is a letter from a reader
The tail end of it...

The amendment failed to pass, but the significance is that the patient, gradual education program of The John Birch Society has reached the halls of Congress. No fewer than 74 informed and courageous U.S. representatives voted for the amendment. Among these ere eight Florida representatives.

Especially gratifying is that the 12th district Congressman Adam Putnam voted for it. I commend Rep. Putnam for his understanding and courage to vote against the U.N. threat to our republic and our children's future freedoms.

Hopefully, more patience and education of the voting public will give others the understanding and courage to cast such a vote, so as to assure, in the words of the subhead on The John Birch Societyaffiliated bi-weekly magazine "The New American," "That Freedom Shall not Perish."

DORIS ELLIOTT

Mulberry

(Doris seemed to be in favor of it...)
(Hard to believe the John Birch Society still exists
what with all the other rightwingnut groups out there
searching for the same dollars)

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 03:23 PM
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5. I just called Putnam's office.
I asked if this were true (silly question, I knew it was). The aide said yes. I mentioned that I remembered a certain guy in the WH going to them to ask for help.

I asked why he would do that. I did not get an answer.

Yes, I knew it was a letter to the editor. I am wondering if she were perhaps not quite serious? My first reading was I thought she was kidding, not even this area is this far gone. Then I wondered if she were serious.

I have not heard of that group in years, and I had no knowledge of their contempt for the UN.....I never paid attention.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:00 PM
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7. John Birch Society morons

They were also in trouble at one time with veterans
because they were denying the existence of Gulf War syndrome.

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 04:29 PM
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8. There are almost weekly letters to the editor...
of my hometown paper, espousing the US get out of the UN... claiming they have a goal to 1) disarm all Americans, 2)replace the ten commandments, or 3)are flying black helicopters over head all in an effort to take over the US.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 05:26 PM
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9. Are they getting this stuff from the Birch society?
I have just never heard all this. Today's letter was the first I had seen on this.

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