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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:17 PM
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Jon Carroll tells us what to think
Jon Carroll:
"I'm not sure what kind of resentment "telling me what to think" is. I'd call it a class resentment, but we'd have to get a new definition of "class.""

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/20/DDGM7C8BBP1.DTL

First a couple from the genius of Tom Meyer:





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JON CARROLL
Monday, June 20, 2005

I wrote a column last week about the general wretched state of things among the current governing classes, and I got more negative e-mail. Maybe the column got linked to some right-wing Web site; I'm not sure. One note came from a man who called me a "morron," which was lovely. And I got two that started more or less the same way: "Thank you for telling us what to think." I believe that was meant sarcastically.

They weren't form letters; I got a rashette of those, but these were not. What interested me was the resentment behind the phrase. I have long been amazed at the tendency of Republicans to still feel aggrieved and angry, even though they control both houses of Congress, the presidency and pretty soon will control the Supreme Court. There was a battle, and they won -- why do they still behave as though they lost? Why do they keep attacking like cornered animals? Why do Republicans whine so much? Whining in victory is just impolite.

<snip>

I have a lot of problems with George Bush, but I would never complain that he was telling me what to think. I'm not sure what kind of resentment "telling me what to think" is. I'd call it a class resentment, but we'd have to get a new definition of "class."

Here's the problem with that mind-set -- not all facts are created equal. Indeed, not all "facts" are facts. Some "facts" are really opinion, and they may or may not be useful ways of looking at reality. But some "facts" are just bits of bad data. The moon is not a balloon, the Rocky Mountains are not made of Gouda, and "disassemble" does not mean "lie."

AIDS is not spread through tears or sweat, and saying so 300 times doesn't make it right. When Sen. Bill Frist arrived at a diagnosis of Terri Schiavo by examining a videotape, he was wrong -- not because his diagnosis was wrong (although it was) but because you just can't do it that way. (If you think you can, you could save a lot of money on doctor's appointments -- just make a videotape of yourself and send it to your family physician, or your family senator.)

more...
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Well you know that it's a shame and a pity, you were raised up in the city and you never learned nothing 'bout jcarroll@sfchronicle.com.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/06/20/DDGM7C8BBP1.DTL
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:24 PM
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1. I sent him the corrected spelling of moran today, with graphic.
:)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 07:41 PM
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2. LOL-- Sure he will appreciate.
:hi:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:16 PM
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3. As Jon Stewart said it's the Anger of the Enfrancised
They are in power and more POed than ever! If they ever get total control over every human being will their heads expode because the rage level finally got so high a mere human body could not support it?
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-05 11:46 PM
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4. V
Zippers split
Reptiles emerge
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 01:48 AM
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5. ACK! That show scared the dickens out of me as a kid!
Is Condi Diana ? :eek
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:36 PM
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10. YEP
the lizard suit's off!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:55 AM
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6. The writers of "V" were either prescient or they had inside
information.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:45 AM
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7. Isn't it obvious that most killers are
cold-blooded?

:evilgrin:
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 01:19 AM
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16. what's the name of the lizard conspiracy man? Icke? did he get the idea
from V or was he the inspiration for it :P
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:35 PM
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9. YES
oh, definitely yes.

They do seem upset that they control so much, but they just can't rein in the entire population of the earth. DAMMIT! :mad:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:04 PM
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11. So destruction of the earth is payback.......
:smoke:
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:36 PM
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12. bingo
Interesting way of viewing the (anti)environmental policies.
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:46 PM
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13. Also answers the question
of what planet they think they'll live on after destroying this one.

:evilgrin:

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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:08 PM
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14. The rapture's on the way!
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 10:09 PM by madeline_con
It's one of the fundies' basic beliefs. We won't need the earth much longer.

Oh, god how I hate them. I'm sorry, but some forms of stupidity and mental derangement, I have no compassion for.


(edited, can't spell when on a tirade)
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 11:30 PM
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15. Yeah right
"-- why do they still behave as though they lost? Why do they keep attacking like cornered animals? Why do Republicans whine so much? Whining in victory is just impolite."

:hide:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:15 PM
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8. For your eyes only
:eyes:
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CAcyclist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 03:53 PM
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17. I love that "morron"
Funny, I was reading the obits a couple weeks ago and I noticed that a Mr. Moran had passed away. So, maybe we should start calling those idiots morrons now, whadda think?
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