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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:08 AM
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America's neo-conservative world supremacists will fail (The Guardian)

America's neo-conservative world supremacists will fail


Current US megalomania is rooted in the Puritan colonists' certainties

Eric Hobsbawm
Saturday June 25, 2005
The Guardian

Three continuities link the global US of the cold war era with the attempt to assert world supremacy since 2001...

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The third thread of continuity links the neo-conservatives of George Bush with the Puritan colonists' certainty of being God's instrument on earth and with the American Revolution - which, like all major revolutions, developed world-missionary convictions, limited only by the wish to shield the the new society of potentially universal freedom from the corruptions of the unreconstructed old world. The most effective way of finessing this conflict between isolationism and globalism was to be systematically exploited in the 20th century and still serves Washington well in the 21st. It was to discover an alien enemy outside who posed an immediate, mortal threat to the American way of life and the lives of its citizens. The end of the USSR removed the obvious candidate, but by the early 90s another had been detected in a "clash" between the west and other cultures reluctant to accept it, notably Islam. Hence the enormous political potential of the al-Qaida outrages of September 11 was immediately recognised and exploited by the Washington world-dominators.

The first world war, which made the US into a global power, saw the first attempt to translate these world-converting visions into reality, but Woodrow Wilson's failure was spectacular; perhaps it should be a lesson to the current world-supremacist ideologists in Washington, who, rightly, recognise Wilson as a predecessor. Until the end of the cold war the existence of another superpower imposed limits on them, but the fall of the USSR removed these. Francis Fukuyama prematurely proclaimed "the end of history" - the universal and permanent triumph of the US version of capitalist society. At the same time the military superiority of the US encouraged a disproportionate ambition in a state powerful enough to believe itself capable of world supremacy, as the British Empire in its time never did. And indeed, as the 21st century began, the US occupied a historically unique and unprecedented position of global power and influence. For the time being it is, by the traditional criteria of international politics, the only great power; and certainly the only one whose power and interests span the globe. It towers over all others.

All the great powers and empires of history knew that they were not the only ones, and none was in a position to aim at genuinely global domination. None believed themselves to be invulnerable.

Nevertheless, this does not quite explain the evident megalomania of US policy since a group of Washington insiders decided that September 11 gave them the ideal opportunity for declaring its single-handed domination of the world. For one thing, it lacked the support of the traditional pillars of the post-1945 US empire, the state department, armed services and intelligence establishment, and of the statesmen and ideologists of cold war supremacy - men like Kissinger and Brzezinski. These were people who were as ruthless as the Rumsfelds and Wolfowitzes. (It was in their time that a genocide of Mayas took place in Guatemala in the 1980s.) They had devised and managed a policy of imperial hegemony over the greater part of the globe for two generations, and were perfectly ready to extend it to the entire globe. They were and are critical of the Pentagon planners and neo-conservative world supremacists because these patently have had no concrete ideas at all, except imposing their supremacy single-handed by military force, incidentally jettisoning all the accumulated experience of US diplomacy and military planning. No doubt the debacle of Iraq will confirm them in their scepticism.

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:29 AM
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1. Add the cost of oil to
the desperate striving to rule the world through
military force and the final outcome is pretty clear.
Takes a good deal of petrol to keep all those
war machines running...what happens when
the planes, tanks, and all the rest can no longer
be fueled to function?
BHN
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 04:31 AM
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2. good article, but I don't see the Puritan/Neocon connection at all
they would've regarded the Puritans as a bunch of fools, ripe for manipulating.

" men like Kissinger and Brzezinski. These were people who were as ruthless as the Rumsfelds and Wolfowitzes. (It was in their time that a genocide of Mayas took place in Guatemala in the 1980s.)"

which would be a neat trick, considering they were in power during the 70s.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 08:09 AM
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3. The Puritans believed in thrift as the bedrock of capitalism
Edited on Sat Jun-25-05 08:09 AM by fedsron2us
It is hard to see any trace of those ideas in the deficit funded and debt ridden world of the neocons.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 12:40 PM
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5. I wasn't quite sure about what the author meant by that either, but...
...to be fair, this article is an edited extract from his (Eric Hobsbawm) preface to a new edition of VG Kiernan's "America: The New Imperialism," so it may be explained in a different part of the Preface.

Eric Hobsbawm is author of The Age of Extremes: The Short 20th Century 1914-1991.
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RickWn Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 09:38 AM
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4. Nice effort to explain it all, but...
Nice effort to explain it all, but a few weaknesses in the overall argument are easily pointed as in the preceding comments.

I strongly agree with the article's boogey-man tenet. For all our moderninity, we humans are still just a bunch of troglodytes.

True, the caves are a lot fancier now, the weapons much more sophisticated, but it's still tribe against tribe everywhere you look.
Fear and mistrust of outsiders is a sad birthright of every living thing. War is always the sad and inevitable consequence.

The only way I ever see world peace is by the awe-inspiring arrival of an alien space ship and a good 'ole close encounter with the third kind.

Only then will humans finally recognize their common heritage and come together in peace and harmony as a single tribe. Of course, as is our in-bred heritage, we'll all immediately start gearing up for a war against the "new" outsiders, but hey... at least in the meantime, we'll have finally stopped shooting each other.

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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-25-05 01:02 PM
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6. Yeah, but the Puritans didn't have a nuclear arsenal.
and they really DID believe in god.
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