The traitor Rove is over his head (by Steve Gilliard)

[MadisonProgressive]

http://news.neilrogers.com/news/articles/2003100308.html

The idea that traitor Karl Rove is some kind of boy genius is humorous now. It's been clear for a while that the traitor Rove is out of league in Presidential politics. I don't think he ever saw Washington as any more than a supersized Austin. He thought he could play the Congress like he did the Leg and it worked for a while because Bush had unprecidented party loyalty. The war needed cooperation and the traitor Rove, who could care less about empire, but liked being on the winning team.

But unlike Lee Atwater, his mentor, the traitor Rove has no sense of proportion. As long as his guy wins, anything is fair game. Anyone gets in his way, they get steamrolled.

Except Joe Wilson is not a man to steamroll easily.

"His fingers threaded a string of ornate black worry beads, common in the Arab world. They're from his days in Baghdad, where he was acting U.S. ambassador. In 1990, while sheltering more than a hundred Americans at the U.S. Embassy and diplomatic residences, he briefed reporters while wearing a hangman's noose instead of a necktie -- a symbol of defiance after Hussein threatened to execute anyone who didn't turn over foreigners.

The message, Wilson said: "If you want to execute me, I'll bring my own rope""

Now, I've heard of people with those kind of balls. However, they usually have at least a Bronze Star and jump wings or a rap sheet or both. Anyone who knew the man or his reputation, would have known that messing with his wife was a stupid thing to do. Expecting him to back down was even stupider. He's a tough guy, tougher than the traitor Rove or his boss. But then so are most high school linebackers.

[wtbymark]

1. if kkkarl goes to jail....

I will personally send him a soap dick on a rope and a pair of pink slippers

[MadisonProgressive]

2. I'm nicer than you are

I'd send him something soothing for his asshole...

[warrens]

3. You're nicer than I am

I would buy up all the lubricants in the entire jail, pay top dollar.

[zalinda]

4. You guys are so bad, I'm much nicer

I would take up a collection to pay someone to make him his special friend.

zalinda

[cyberpj]

5. I'm nice too.

I'd petition to let him have Jimmy Jeff visits.

(Who knows...maybe there would be photos some day for a political Who's Who book)

[skip fox]

6. And this time he's guilty of leading an illegal conspiracy . . .

as well as committing same crime he urged others to do and probably of trying to cover it up as well!!!

Consider the facts. There were at least 6 initial calls and 2 different callers, which means Rove likely coordinated it, conspired within it, etc., and was perhaps a primary source himself. It also means there will be more than one indictment of the administration's top officials. Read on.

Rational for the numbers:

The situation strongly implies that there were at least 2 different primary sources (since Matt Cooper's specifically released him, but Judith Miller's apparently did not do the same for her) and reason maintains there were at least 6 initial calls (the 6 reporters contacted: Robert Novak, Cooper, Miller, and 3 others), and 3 follow-up calls (Novak, Miller, Cooper). This is the minimum.



Scenario:

In order to make sure the story leaked properly, discrediting Wilson's Niger yellow-cake findings by implying he and his wife, Valerie Plame, had an agenda against the president from the beginning, a single person would have to coordinate the calling. (Of course he could have made some calls as well.) Neither of the 2 or more should call the other's initial contact (that would seem too eager, perhaps a dirty trick). In addition, 4-5 others would have to know the story was true in order to confirm it, and they had to be encouraged to do so.

Who better than the master of such odious activity, Karl Rove? Perhaps Cheney (who would have felt responsibility in such a matter since it was the behest of his office that the CIA sent Wilson to Niger) used his clearance to discover this information and brought it to Rove at a meeting of the White House Iraq Group (see snippy's beautiful post in DU, link at bottom of this post). Then Rove would go into high gear, doing what he does best (I mean worst). He coordinated the callings, made sure there were the requisite secondary sources ready and willing to confirm (perhaps each having different details or a different slant).

Therefore, Rove may well be both a conspirator (a little RICO, anybody?), and the leaker of illegal information, AND we may have at least one other indictment handed down. Think of the possibilities! Rice, Cheney, Libby, Hughes (why the hell did she retire before?), Matalin, etc. Maybe even W. (But the more I think about it, I wonder how many real reporters wouldn't be suspicious of a call from Rove? He might be the primary source for the likes of Novak, but few others.)

But think about the above and then read snippy's lovely item backed up by a Washington Post article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=142863&mesg_id=142952