Week old under the radar story about GOP rigging election:

[rasputin1952]

Baltimore Chronicle has following story:



In the months before the 2004 presidential election, a firm called Sproul & Associates launched voter registration drives in at least eight states, most of them swing states. The group--run by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Christian Coalition and the Arizona Republican Party--had been hired by the Republican National Committee.
Sproul got into a bit of trouble last fall when, in certain states, it came out that the firm was playing dirty tricks in order to suppress the Democratic vote: concealing their partisan agenda, tricking Democrats into registering as Republicans, surreptitiously re-registering Democrats and Independents as Republicans, and shredding Democratic registration forms.

The scandal got a moderate amount of local coverage in some states--and then the election was over. Now anyone who brought up Nathan Sproul, or any of the other massive crimes and improprieties committed on or prior to Election Day, was shrugged off as a dealer in "conspiracy theory."

It seems that Sproul did quite a lot of work for the Republicans. Exactly how much did he do? More specifically, how much did the RNC pay Sproul & Associates?

If you went online last week to look up how much money Sproul received from the Republicans in 2004, you would have found that, according to the party (whose figures had been posted by the Center for Responsive Politics), the firm was paid $488,957.

In fact, the RNC paid Sproul a great deal more than that. From an independent study of the original data filed by the Republicans with the Federal Election Commission, it is clear that Sproul was paid a staggering $8.3 million for its work against the Democrats.


http://baltimorechronicle.com/070505Miller-Irmus.shtml

This is incredible....I have not heard of this before in such detail.

[In Truth We Trust]

1. Kick- Paper ballots NOW! Hand count NOW!

[Nightjock]

2. Lucky you put this here

No one would have found it in the 2004 Election forum which has been buried away in the basement of this site.

[RaleighNCDUer]

3. At the time, people said it wasn't important because it was about

registration, not votes.

But what would the point of falsifying registration data be?

Simple. If you have 55% registered as dems, and 45% repub, it makes it hard to explain a vote turnout that is 53% repub. But falsely register enough dems as repub, narrowing the gap from 10% to 5%, and you can have a 53% repub victory counted as within the MOE, explain it as crossovers because of the new evangelicals and people frightened by terra.

It's cover for the subsequent vote fraud.

[iconoclastNYC]

29. Very good analysis

Also helps make the polling companies increase the percentage of Republicans they factor into pre-election polling.

[Jo March]

4. Wow! Who will be held accountable for this?

We need to send this to as many Dem leaders as we can.

I will be faxing this article to Kerry, Kennedy, Reid, Dean and as many others as I can find faxes for tonight.

We can't let this die.

[bleever]

5. The story of the theft of the 2004 election is NOT going away.

In fact, it will profit immensely by the revelation of Rove's other misdeeds, and his true character.


:thumbsup:

[roseBudd]

6. adding it to the links section of bushcheated04.com when I get home...

Check out and help spread http://bushcheated04.com

and http://bushcheated04.com/links.html

and http://bushcheated04.com/loser.html

many a true word is said in jest.

[rasputin1952]

9. Thanks for the link....Nice site!!!! Lot's of good stuff there...

:D

[mopinko]

7. wondered when we would hear more about nathan sproul

this story, and it's subsequent burial, which was around before the election, was all the proof i needed that the election was stolen.

[rasputin1952]

11. I wondered what happened to this story as well....There was a

flash in the pan about his being behind the shredding of D registrations, then it just went poof...:shrug:

This is serious stuff, involving both Fed and state laws; he should be doing time!!!!...:grr:

[mopinko]

13. funny how that works, eh?

very strange. not.

[roseBudd]

19. I was at a Cliff Arenebeck evidence gathering deposition in SW OH...

and a woman testified to befriending a woman she saw in a Kroger parking lot regstering voters for Kelly Service temp agency, and that thew contract was through Sproul.

[GuvWurld]

8. Also see Mark Crispin Miller 6/30/05

http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2005/06/team-bush-paid-millions-to-nathan.html

[bejammin075]

10. Was somewhat visible, but always good to re-read

I think the DSM and related issues are getting most of the attention lately. Election reform is still a very very important issue for me, but I have to admit I've poured nearly all of my activist effort into DSM activism since it broke 5/1/05. I wish I could clone myself for each issue I care about. There just arent enough hours in the day to combat all the Bush scandals. I think that Bush lied about the war is an easier issue to get into the public discourse, for the present time.

[iconoclastNYC]

30. Once we nail them on one scandal x

It gets a lot easier for peopel to open thier eyes to scandal y and z.

traitor rove and cheney go for conspiracy
-we take back the house-
dsm - fixing intelligence, impeachment
electiongate investigation and reform
911 coverup exposed

I think that's how the scandal dominos will fall.

[Time for change]

12. This is real scary

What do you think is the bigger problem, GOP control of the voting machines or voter registration?

[RaleighNCDUer]

15. They walk hand in hand.

See my post above.

[ThoughtCriminal]

14. I'm surprised that there aren't criminal charges

in Oregon at least. Is there an investigation?

[intheflow]

16. It's heartening to see this hasn't gone away.

Mark Crispin Miller is da bomb! :nuke:

[msongs]

17. voter registration forms need to be serial numbered and accounted for in

all cases. if you give em out, you need to return them, signed or unsigned. you should not be allowed to give them to people to "take home" to fill out.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm

PS - this would not stop people from falsifying documents but it might cut down on opportunities to do naughty things like throw them in the trash.

[frictionlessO]

18. Is this more fodder for the naysayers non evidence file? Stay tuned!

Of course we didn't lose... there was never anything to win. Not with people like this doing every trick in the book plus a slew of new ones. Nope there wasn't even an election as far as I know... just merest perception of one.

[Natural Well]

20. Whadda shocker

[roseBudd]

21. Nathan "Evil GOP Bastard" Sproul RNC payment story added to...

http://bushcheated04.com

Shallow Throat: Internal numbers showed Bush tanking in Oregon, Nevada, West Virginia and Ohio. Luckily the RNC had hired Nathan Sproul to focus on voter registration in several key states. Unfortunately a majority of newly registered voters intended to vote for Kerry. We knew Nathan was resourceful, very well paid and would know what to do, if you know what I mean.

[Gay Green]

22. Very resourceful indeed.

And STILL he left behind unpaid bills!!! :grr:

[roseBudd]

27. That is a pic of Nathan Sproul. Wish I could find one of Franklin County's

Matt Damschroeder of the 68 voting machines held back on election day. Help spread http://bushcheated04.com

We may not be able to get people to read the Conyer's report but 10 minutes with BushCheated04 can go a long way towards making the case while entertaining and most importantly mocking the opponent. I take pride in my Rovian mudslinging abilities.

[byronius]

23. Arizona origins? That may explain it.

I once lived in Phoenix. When I visited last year, I stopped in a downtown Tempe record store. The owner and I ended up talking politics -- and he said that it was now common culture for gangs of right-wingers to roam around looking for businesses posting anything counter-cultural or left-wing. He said that if they found such material, the windows would be broken. In broad daylight. Without arrest. I was aghast.
Also, a story about the sheriff of Maricopa County -- the pink underwear and green baloney labor camp guy, Joe Arpaio (?) -- who imprisoned a vocal detractor of his for murder, albeit against all the witnesses and evidence. The man was brutalized before being exonerated and released.
I don't remember it being quite so right-wing as much as just dark and violent. But Evan Meacham was elected Governor, and cancelled the Martin Luther King Holiday, and called black children 'pickaninnies', and I did indeed vote in the recall election that ousted him -- so --

Virulent. And truth be told, quite functionally insane.

[Auntie Bush]

24. Just WHAT did he DO for 8,400,000.00?

Inquiring/suspicious minds want to know. :shrug:
I hope they crucify this b*****d. They didn't just want to steal/win this election (like in 2000)...they wanted to be able to declare a MANDATE to justify carrying out his crimes against the American people. Heaven help them if Democrats won and had the opportunity to investigate his evil deeds. So yes...it was worth it to them to do anything to win...no matter what the cost.

[Pacifist Patriot]

31. I'd say the presidency was worth $8.4M.

;)

Yes, I'd like to see a detailed invoice for that bill.

[grannylib]

25. And where is the so-called "liberal media" in ALL of these real news

stories? Nowhere to be found...too busy filling us in on the important stuff like Wacko Jacko and missing blond white women (sad though it is) and other distractions.

I noticed the other day that the Diebold-manufactured ATM machine at my bank has no problem spitting out a paper receipt, and really quickly too. What's the big deal????

[BamaBecky]

26. Where did all that money come from?

Well there is some missing money in Ohio???????????
Bama

[rasputin1952]

28. As I recall...some of these people were actually caught in the act of

shredding and filling dumpsters w/Dem voter registrations.

Many of those who chose to register were turned away at the polls. This should be handled by each state's Atty Gen's office, and it will take a public outcry and some pretty interesting legal battles to bring this to a conclusion.

I believe the Feds can get involved, but I'm not positive. Since this firm crossed state borders to do the Ohio and other jobs. I would suppose the Feds could get into the fray. Bottom line though, the states need to take this clown to court!!!!...:grr: