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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:27 AM
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USA spooked by Russia and China
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 02:36 AM by lovuian
http://english.pravda.ru/world/20/91/368/15842_USA.html

07/22/2005 10:54
Following the 9/11 attacks on New York and Washington, a negative response to the deployment of U.S. military bases was very unlikely

U.S. lawmakers have been gushing various proposals over the last few weeks. First U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee expressed its concern about Russia's growing influence on the former Soviet republics. "An authoritarian Russia poses a growing threat to the region's states in transition to democracy. resisting the threat should be made a priority of U.S. foreign policy," said the committee. Well, the message is cut-and-dried. It is noteworthy that many people in Russia tend to believe that this country's influence on the former Soviet republics has been in decline year in year out. Apparently, U.S. senators have a different point of view.

The above statement referred to Russia only. However, U.S. senators and congressmen have a lot wider range of interests. They simply could not skip such an event as this month's summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) in the Kazakh capital Astana. To be more precise, they could not pass over the statement by the SCO for the antiterrorist coalition countries to set a troop pullout deadline from Central Asian states as active combat operations in Afghanistan wound down a long time ago.

The House of Representatives of U.S. Congress passed an amendment this Tuesday. The amendment is meant to express concern about the above statement.

"The statement is an obvious attempt by China and Russia to force the U.S. out of the region," said Congressman Tom Lantos (Dem), executive member of the U.S. House of Representatives Committee for International Relations during the House meeting on Tuesday. Mr. Lantos is a co-author of the aforementioned amendment to the bill on funds to be allocated for the State Department next year.

"Russia and China should not force their policies on smaller neighboring countries only because they do no like the presence of the coalition forces in Central Asia," New York Congressman (Dem) Joseph Crowley, the other co-author of the amendment, was quoted as saying by RIA Novosti. "We should not allow China and Russia to dictate any terms as to operations aimed to ensure our national security," added Mr. Crowley.

"U.S. Congress is concerned about the Shanghai Cooperation Organization's declaration calling on the members of the coalition to set a troop pullout deadline along with a deadline for their temporary use of military installations located in the SCO member states," says the amendment.

The House of Representatives found it necessary to recommend the U.S. administration to open talks with the governments of Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan on issues related to the preservation of U.S. military bases in those countries. According to Joseph Crowley, Washington should "start a dialogue with respective member states of the SCO in order to point up the importance of the continuing presence of the coalition antiterrorist forces."


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Basicly China and Russia are firmly asking the US to get out of ASIA. Nicely for right now but its got the Congress all in a frickin tizzy!!!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:33 AM
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1. We happy Russia and China standing up to US
World spooked by US now. So big big :applause: to Russia and China.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:33 AM
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2. "An authoritarian Russia poses a growing threat to the region's states"
Well *I* consider an authoritarian United States to be a "growing threat" to the WORLD. We've already proven that, in fact. Just look at Iraq.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:37 AM
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3. Unfortunately, I can see where they are coming from ...
hell, I'm afraid of us too. :scared:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:11 AM
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4. ten million man armies foiling plots to conquer the Middle East
They've been prepping for WWIII against these guys for a while. It wouldn't be a big surprise if the neofascists spark something up there to lend credence to claims allowing the Shrub to avoid having to step down in 2009.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:20 AM
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5. Shrub aint stepping anywhere but out, my friend!
The bullies have left the schoolyard.

Peace.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:23 AM
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6. actually the scary part is that if there is an attack on the mainland
Martial law would indeed suspend elections and give the President dictatorial powers. Attempting to bring this about is far from beyond this abjectly corrupt administration.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:16 AM
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7. The paranoid psychotics who have hijacked our government
are spooked by nearly everything.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:50 AM
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10. My thought, too. These supposedly macho pricks are scared of
everything.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:22 AM
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8. Didn't Nostradamus predict it would be a war between China and the US
that would bring an end to civilization as we know it? This is scary stuff, whether it was "foreseen," or not. China has decided to emerge as a balance to US power. However, considering they own most of our debt and are agressively pursuing our companies, have begun to spew "power" rhetoric and have teamed up with Russia, I'd venture to say we could be in a world of hurt.

Where are the diplomats when you need them?
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:27 AM
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9. And just how are we going to do anything about this?
We've outsourced almost everything to China. Do you suppose if we ask them politely and nicely, they'll make and ship the things we need to stop them?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:51 AM
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11. Murika under neocon rule: fear everything
being from the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' while watching them act like this in my name really pisses me off. :grr:

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:31 AM
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12. note to mr lantos -- maybe the actions of
our president really do give china and russia pause for concern.

we wouldn't want a military base by the chinese built and occupied in mexico.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 07:34 AM
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13. Bingo! Never have figured why
this cabal thinks they can do things nobody else would EVER be allowed to!

To paraphrase: Stupid, greedy, and violent is no way to run a government, son.
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