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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:35 PM
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Juan Cole says Suspect who was Shot in Britain was Unarmed
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London plainclothes police were on the trail of a suspected member of a terror network when he bolted in a subway. He was wearing a thick coat in the middle of a humid summer day, and it appears that the police were afraid he might be concealing a bomb. When he tripped--or in some reports they tripped him-- they shot him several times. Eyewitnesses say that he had a "horrified" look on his face when he tripped and fell. He was not one of the four bombers police are seeking from the failed July 21 bombing attempts. He turned out not to be armed, and the incident has raised alarms among the British Muslim community.

For anyone who knows the UK, this incident is startling. Most British police are not armed, and the shooting of unarmed but suspicious persons is infinitely less common there than in the United States.


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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:36 PM
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1. I heard reports he had a 'bomb on with wires showing'
this stinks
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:39 PM
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2. But he was PLANNING to arm himself
Well, he may not have had it down on paper, but there were arming-related activities.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:44 PM
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3. UK
". . .and the shooting of unarmed but suspicious persons is infinitely less common there than in the United States." As if centuries of slavery, colonialism and classism would make them immune from any sort of unseemly racism. Indeed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:55 PM
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4. What frightened me from the BBC eyewitness reports
was that the man was on the ground and they shot him five times. Seems mighty strange to me.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:00 PM
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5. Yeah, dont wear bulky cloths STUPID!
obviously the police are not at fault
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:44 PM
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7. Well one shot to the leg might have worked just as well
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 03:45 PM by malaise
five shots when the person is already on the ground sounds a little excessive unless the plan was to kill. I'll wait for reports because it is very unusual for this to happen in England.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:11 PM
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8. Die! Terrorist! Die!
totally stupid...like bullets wont set off a bomb.
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dmkinsey Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:04 PM
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6. "Don't shoot it's just a wallet"
Oh, sorry, got stuck in a time warp for a second there
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AuntieM1957 Donating Member (775 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 06:17 PM
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9. Killed for wearing a coat and not speaking English
what a sad, sad day for all of us.

The terrorists won this one resoundedly. They created such fear in those police officers that they saw what WASN'T there.

A brown face in a long coat. This story made me cry several times today.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:11 PM
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10. Turns out he was also innocent
and not connected to any bombing. He is not linked to any inquiry. So they're sorry now but he is dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4711021.stm
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:08 PM
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11. The innocent was a Brazilian
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 04:33 PM
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12. Notice Juan Cole had the earliest reports of the the truth....
Go Juan...
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