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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:43 PM
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They Are Not “Conspiracy Theories”
They Are Not “Conspiracy Theories” - They Are, in Fact, “Discoveries”

More : http://tvnewslies.org/html/they_are_not_conspiracy_theori.html

Those to whom information is presented must deal with their personal unwillingness to hear new facts.

We have to make a serious effort to distinguish between the expression of an unfounded theory and the disclosure of verifiable information and facts.

They absolutely refuse to accept even the most convincing proof because they dare not admit to themselves that they have been lied to by officials in whom the placed their trust.

It is currently standard practice in America to simply dismiss any piece of information that punches a hole in any widely accepted explanation of a disturbing event. In many cases, especially when a serious crime is in question, the "conspiracy theory" tag is immediately attached to any new discovery about the event. Information related to such important topics such as 9/11, election fraud, the new world order, secret societies, or globalization is too often ignored as part of a baseless conspiracy theory even before any of it is ever presented, discussed, or evaluated.


More : http://tvnewslies.org/html/they_are_not_conspiracy_theori.html
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:49 PM
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1. Nice article
The conspiracy is actually their conspiracy. This is all getting so 'Rovian', attack the enemies strengths. We see this over and over whether it be Kerry's service, the patriotism of the left, the ecomomy. It's like their stamp. Truth has no place in anything they say.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:50 PM
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2. Good luck with this.
I'm absolutely with you, but you cannot underestimate peoples capacity for self-delusion. :shrug:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 04:45 PM
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4. Agree, self-delusion is a powerful drug-sleepwalking
(eventually)is dangerous-but you don't know that til you hit the pavement-too late to observe.
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:54 PM
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3. Take for example...
If you find a gun with someones fingerprints on it, and it is clear that the gun was used to murder someone...you may not like the fact that it "appears" to incriminate the person to whom the prints belong...but you can not dismiss the fact that a gun was found with that person's prints.

The theory at this point is that the person whose prints are on the gun was the killer...the fact and the evidence that can not be dismissed is the gun with the prints.

We have to distinguish between the 2.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 05:37 PM
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5. There is a stigma to conspiracy
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 05:39 PM by teryang
A conspiracy is an agreement among parties to promote or do an unlawful act. The stigma adheres to the word conspiracy for this reason. The perjorative connotation of the phrase "conspiracy theory" arises from the word conspiracy rather than theory (which is little more than a hypothesis, a respectable intellectual tool for evaluating evidence). A hypothesis when substantiated becomes proof.

The negative connotation is reinforced by the notion that the "conspiracy theorist" is a paranoid, because he seeks to know what is hidden and beyond appearances. Yet it is the conspirator rather than the analyst who operates covertly and partakes the perspective of the paranoid, labeling everything secret and fighting factual disclosure with every device at hand because it will jeopardize "security." Thus we find agencies like the FBI and the White House obstructing investigations at every opportunity.

In this fashion the meaning of language is changed as it was intended to by the media elite who define language to transfer the stigma from the conspirator to the social analyst or critic who seeks to reveal the existence of the moral or criminal undertaking and thereby foil it unethical objective and punish its participants.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:37 PM
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6. What's wrong with a conspiracy theory or a conspiracy theorist?
History is full of conspiracies, and so is today's world. It is the job of historians and political analysts to theorize about them and try to understand them, just as physical scientists theorize about the natural world.

It seems to me that anybody today who is NOT a conspiracy theorist doesn't think very much.
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