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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:58 AM
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WARNING... If you are in a good mood, Don't Read!
http://www.sanfordherald.com/articles/2005/07/29/news/editorial/edit15.txt

(from south carolina)

Do you think the author is any relation to ????

Story takes twisted direction
By David Limbaugh
Before President Bush's Supreme Court nomination of Judge John Roberts completely overshadows the misidentified Karl Rove scandal, I think we better take a second look at the twisted direction this sad story has taken.

As far as Karl Rove's conduct in the Plame/Wilson affair, there is no scandal. He didn't come close to committing a crime, nor even an ethical infraction.
He didn't set out to expose a CIA operative, much less an undercover one. He was the recipient of a phone call in which he cautioned Time's Matt Cooper not to be taken in by the politically driven Joe Wilson, whose operative wife, Valerie Plame, had played a great role in securing Wilson's "fact-finding" trip to Niger.

Rove, who didn't even mention Plame's name, couldn't have known she was an undercover CIA agent - because she wasn't. He manifestly wasn't motivated to expose her for the purpose of punishing Wilson - because "exposing" her non-covert status couldn't possibly have damaged her.

But Rove did have a motive to share his information with Cooper: to warn him of the nepotistic connection between Plame and Wilson and to thus take Wilson's claims with a grain of salt.

Rove did nothing wrong.

more....
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:17 AM
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1. speaking of nepotistic connections, why does anybody give Rush's
dumber brother any column space at all?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:22 AM
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2. When was this article written?
I don't see a date on it.

Much has been uncovered in the last week or two that dispels the GOP talking points Limbaugh the Lesser spews here. Again, I'm wondering when this article was written.

The fact that it is printed in a paper is disturbing. This purposeful misinformation is really detrimental to the wellbeing to our country. I wonder if these idiots really know they are spreading lies or if one of the head felons puts out a memo loaded with crappola and it's simply repeated by the rank and file over and over and over again.

Not to worry, we expect this BS, but thanks for the warning.

More importantly, the prosecutor won't be swayed by this weak attempt to exonerate Rove in the press. It won't much matter when idictments are handed down.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:54 AM
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4. July 29th . . . it's on the link - This is their news ! n/t
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 01:28 AM
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3. What a pack-o-lies...
Melman's little propaganda package word for word.

I'm guessing that the Sanford Herald is some despicable little fish-wrap, but maybe its just that columnist.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 02:00 AM
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5. Aaaaargh! It is the little brother -
Now this is a perfect case for birth control and abortion if I ever
saw one!

http://www.newsmax.com/pundits/bios/Limbaugh-bio.shtml

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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:39 AM
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6. If the name is Limbaugh,
There is a liar. If Rove gave Al Quaida a nuke to use on California, they'd be spewing "he didn't come close to an ethical infraction".
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:06 AM
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8. LOL, sounds like an ad slogan
"With a name like 'Limbaugh,' you know it's gonna suck."
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:19 AM
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7. YAWWWWWN!!!!
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 02:14 PM
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9. Wonder what the loud mouth will say when the indictments come?
The more we know, the more it seems that there will be multiple indictments for "high administration officials" in Fitzgerald's final analysis including at least 2 for Rove. (If not indictments, we'll have notifications of non-indictable wrongful activities--or some such--in the prosecutor's final report).

I say this because in learning about multiple leakers for the 6 reported contacts (John Dean says 6, we know of three: Rove, Libby, and Miller's source who will not specifically release her from her confidentiality agreement) and multiple (3-4) confirming sources, it becomes apparent what occurred. One administrative official discovered the Plame-Wilson-Niger relationship, took it to the White House Iraq Group, turned it over to Rove, who on the spot assigned tasks to different primary leakers/sources assuring no source called another source's contact (so as not to appear too eager), that no source's "pitch" was exactly the same but that their information was all given in an "off hand" manner (e.g., "Don't go too far out on this Wilson thing, I don't want you burnt").

To have 6 calls from 3 leakers is an indication of a coordinated endeavor. If there were the 6 leakers as Dean claims would make the case even more damning. But also consider the planning necessary to have enough confirming sources. Unsure of who the reporters may call to confirm, someone would have to make sure at least 2 other officials were ready and willing to confirm if called.

Therefore a master-mind would have been necessary to coordinate all these calls and confirmations (as many as 11 as was storied last week).

They would have gone to Rove immediately and he, probably in an emergency of the White House Iraq Group, assigned the roles, the stories and the stances, etc.

So he not only leaked by was the mastermind of a conspiracy to leak.

We can only hope he lead a cover-up and committed perjury as well.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:15 PM
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10. When will the indictments happen? October?
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