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theearthisround Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:05 PM
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Al-Qaeda, a Secret Service Operation? (fifth largest turkish newspaper)
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=national&alt=&hn=22982

Countries facing the al-Qaeda threat are awaiting the intelligence Turkish security is to provide. Amid the smoke from the fortuitous fire emerged the possibility that al-Qaeda may not be, strictly speaking, an organization but an element of an intelligence agency operation. Turkish intelligence specialists agree that there is no such organization as al-Qaeda. Rather, Al-Qaeda is the name of a secret service operation. The concept “fighting terror” is the background of the “low-intensity-warfare” conducted in the mono-polar world order. The subject of this strategy of tension is named as “al-Qaeda.”

Sakra, the fifth most senior man in Osama bin Ladin’s al-Qaeda that has challenged the whole world from a base in the Afghan mountains, is in the hands of Turkish Justice. Sakra has been sought by the secret services since 2000. The US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) interrogated him twice before. Following the interrogation CIA offered him employment. He also received a large sum of money by CIA. However the CIA eventually lost contact with him. Following this development, in 2000 the CIA passed intelligence about Sakra through a classified notice to Turkey, calling for the Turkish National Security Organization (MIT) to capture him. MIT caught Sakra in Turkey and interrogated him. Sakra’s protests that, “MIT abducted my wife and interrogated her for 20 days,” as he was brought to Besiktas court in Istanbul for sentencing, seem to confirm these claims.

Sakra was sought and caught by Syrian al-Mukhabarat as well. Syria too offered him employment. Sakra eventually became a triple agent for the secret services. These astounding claims are the outcome of Sakra’s four-day interrogation at Istanbul Anti-Terror Department Headquarters. Turkish security officials, interrogating a senior al-Qaeda figure for the first time, were thoroughly confused about what they discovered about al-Qaeda. The prosecutor too was surprised. A second hearing of the case about the attacks in Istanbul between November 15-23, 2003, is reportedly possible.

http://www.zaman.com/?bl=national&alt=&hn=22982
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:09 PM
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1. I believe
George Galloway of the UK said 'Al Qaeda' was the name for the data base the US kept of names in the bin Laden movement when they helped them against the USSR.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:16 PM
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4. Robin Cook said it
Formerly Blair's foreign secretary, who resigned over the Iraq war. He died last week.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:22 PM
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7. You're right !
"Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west."


http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html

I kept thinking of Cook, but figured it was because he's just been in the news. Thanks.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:57 PM
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12. Robin Cook took the challenge and unfortunately lost
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:19 PM
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6. no, that was Robin Cook
who just happened to die of heart failure while walking alone in the scottish hills a short while after mentioning that origin of "the base".
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 06:59 PM
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13. IF OBL is still alive-he is still on the CIA, etal payroll or his
successors.
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judy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:13 PM
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2. Makes sense...
When you start thinking carefully, articles like this make much more sense than the official descriptions of Al-Qaeda (such as "special forces in Afghanistan encountered a group of Al Qaeda fighters" - there is no such thing as Al Qaeda fighters.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:14 PM
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3. Thanks for finding this!
Very interesting. Further confirmation of what is becoming increasingly obvious.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:17 PM
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5. ahh you mean Al CIAda? You betcha. They originated as a CIA operated
group... no doubt.

Odd how the US is the only one who ever does their press releases?
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:58 PM
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10. you mean alCIAduh-(note the emphasis on "DUH" !!!!!
ol' Al is a workin fer Unkull Sham
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:40 PM
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8. I hate to sound dumb, but

isn't the headline a bit misleading? Perhaps the writer doesn't have a perfect command of American English?

Either the author doesn't understand what "secret service" means in the US, or he is being purposefully unclear.
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 01:51 PM
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9. In other parts of the world,
people say "secret service" where we would say "intellegence agents" or "CIA".

Bill
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 03:54 PM
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11. I guess the problem is, how do you have a #5 man in any
non-organization?

No organization means there's no structure to count. Saying there's a number 5 man implies there's a number 4 man, and maybe a number 6 man. This is an organization.
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DrBlix Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:06 PM
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14. Sakra alive or dead???
I suppose I should make sure my tin foil hat is on right for this. This source has been pretty interesting of late.
.
CIA GulfStream plane G5 N379P used for "rendition" (to ferry terrorist to other countries for torture purposes) was attacked on Egyptian runway. Sakara and 2 other 911 plotters Killed.
.
Egyption newspapers reporting explosion of BUS.
.
More:
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index801.htm
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sintax Donating Member (891 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-05 09:49 PM
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15. There is no such thing as al-Qaida, never has been-Need more Nominations
hall of mirrors
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