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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:36 AM
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First Hand Reports - Why So Few Katrina Survivors Made It Out
Edited on Wed Sep-07-05 09:44 AM by leveymg
Yesterday, I posted an account written by two emergency medical technicians from California who were trapped in New Orleans for four days after the hurricane until they were evacuated.

Those EMTs wrote that they were part of a group of hundreds of storm survivors who tried to walk out of the downtown area but were stopped at the Rt. 10 onramp by a line of armed Gretna county sheriffs, who fired into the air to drive the survivors back into the city. When asked why the sheriffs were forcibly preventing people from leaving, the EMTs were told, "the West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in their City." That account, follows at the bottom of this post.

Immediately below is a second account that confirms that armed Sheriffs prevented survivors from fleeing rising flood waters at the onramp to the Bridge that crosses the Mississippi River. This is an account by Denise Moore, a nurse at Baptist Hospital, who is now a displaced person in Baton Rouge. It was written by her cousin, Lisa Moore, editor of Redbone Press.


What REALLY happened in New Orleans: Denise Moore's story
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/6/211436/8987
by ch2
Tue Sep 6th, 2005 at 18:14:36 PDT

I heard from my aunt last night that my cousin Denise made it out of New Orleans; she's at her brother's in Baton Rouge. from what she told me:

Her mother, a licensed practical nurse, was called in to work on Sunday night at Memorial Hospital (historically known as Baptist Hospital to those of us from N.O.).

SNIP

After the storm passed, she went back to Baptist to seek shelter (this was Monday). it was also scary at Baptist; the electricity was out, they were running on generators, there was no air conditioning. Tuesday the levees broke, and water began rising. they moved patients upstairs, saw boats pass by on what used to be streets. they were told that they would be evacuated, that buses were coming. then they were told they would have to walk to the nearest intersection, Napoleon and S. Claiborne, to await the buses. they waded out in hip-deep water, only to stand at the intersection, on the neutral ground (what y'all call the median) for 3 1/2 hours. the buses came and took them to the Ernest Memorial Convention Center. (yes, the convention center you've all seen on TV.)

Denise said she thought she was in hell. they were
there for 2 days, with no water, no food. no shelter. Denise, her mother (63 years old), her niece (21 years old), and 2-year-old grandniece. when they arrived, there were already thousands of people there. they were told that buses were coming. police drove by, windows rolled up, thumbs up signs. national guard trucks rolled by, completely empty, soldiers with guns cocked and aimed at them. nobody stopped to drop off water. a helicopter dropped a load of water, but all the bottles exploded on impact due to the height of
the helicopter.

the first day (Wednesday) 4 people died next to her. the second day (Thursday) 6 people died next to her. Denise told me the people around her all thought they had been sent there to die. again, nobody stopped. the only buses that came were full; they dropped off more and more people, but nobody was being picked up and taken away. they found out that those being dropped off had been rescued from rooftops and attics; they got off the buses delirious from lack of water and food. completely dehydrated. the crowd tried to keep them all in one area; Denise said the new arrivals had mostly lost their minds. they had gone crazy.

inside the convention center, the place was one huge bathroom. in order to shit, you had to stand in other people's shit. the floors were black and slick with shit. most people stayed outside because the smell was so bad. but outside wasn't much better: between the heat, the humidity, the lack of water, the old and very young dying from dehydration... and there was no place to lay down, not even room on the sidewalk. they slept outside Wednesday night, under an overpass.

Denise said yes, there were young men with guns there. but they organized the crowd. they went to Canal Street and "looted," and brought back food and water for the old people and the babies, because nobody had eaten in days. when the police rolled down windows and yelled out "the buses are coming," the young men with guns organized the crowd in order: old people in front, women and children next, men in the back. just so that when the buses came, there would be priorities of who got out first.

Denise said the fights she saw between the young men with guns were fist fights. she saw them put their guns down and fight rather than shoot up the crowd. but she said that there were a handful of people shot in the convention center; their bodies were left inside, along with other dead babies and old people.

Denise said the people thought there were being sent there to die. lots of people being dropped off, nobody being picked up. cops passing by, speeding off. national guard rolling by with guns aimed at them. and yes, a few men shot at the police, because at a certain point all the people thought the cops were coming to hurt them, to kill them all. she saw a young man who had stolen a car speed past, cops in pursuit; he crashed the car, got out and ran, and the cops shot him in the back. in front of the whole crowd. she saw many groups of people decide that they were going to walk across the bridge to the west bank, and those same groups would return, saying that they were met at the top of the bridge by armed police ordering them to turn around, that they weren't allowed to leave.

SNIP

after arriving at my other cousin's apartment in Baton Rouge, they saw the images on TV, and couldn't believe how the media was portraying the people of New Orleans. she kept repeating to me on the phone last night: make sure you tell everybody that they left us there to die. nobody came. those young men with guns were protecting us. if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't have had the little water and food they had found.

That's Denise Moore's story.


The Moore family is large and long established creole Catholic family in New Orleans, the Moores are musicians - Deacon John (Moore) is the most famous one of them - professors, nurses... Their houses are now submerged by flooding, and most of them have lost everything following Katrina's passage. Lisa Moore, editor (Redbone press), has collected the testimony of her 43 year-old cousin, Denise Moore, once an education counselor, now a refugee in Baton Rouge. Here is her tale of a dive into Hell.

Lisa Moore is . . . the editor of Redbone press. The url below is their webpage and they have a message board. Anyone interested in getting in touch with Lisa to suggest she share her story with the media ?
http://www.femmenoir.net/RedbonePress.htm

B)



A First Hand Account - Why So Few Katrina Survivors Got Out.

Within hours after the savage winds of Katrina subsided, the westward expressway out of New Orleans was blocked-off by armed sheriffs of suburban Gretna County who barred everyone trying to flee the city by vehicle and on foot. After four to five days, federal officials finally began to move evacuees out of the two designated downtown shelters on buses and on military flights. Those who were fortunate enough to reach Houston waited for hours at airfields and in parking lots while everyone was checked for communicable diseases.

The hell of the survivors was prolonged for days by a deliberate containment policy concocted by local officials who could think of nothing but to surround New Orleans with armed guards and wait for the Army to arrive. After troops came in, evacuation was further delayed as evacuees were examined for signs of infections. The fear of race and germs probably killed more people than the rush of waters that broke through the city’s outdated, inadequate storm walls.

In addition to criminal bungling of disaster efforts, it appears that there was a de facto quarantine of New Orleans. The federal search and rescue and evacuation operations were apparently tied up for 3 or 4 days. Meanwhile, CDC waited to see if there was a contagious disease outbreak. Little effort was taken during that time to get adequate water or food to thousands of people clustered visibly in large groups on highway access ramps.

The stories of wild anarchy and armed looters was largely an overblown, racist cover story. The mass media again allowed itself to be used to spread lies concocted by the White House. The American people were being prepared for the possibility that federal troops would be ordered to enforce a quarantine, and the remaining population of New Orleans might rebel if Washington had, indeed, decided that Katrina’s survivors wouldn’t be let out of the doomed city. - Mark


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/6/132725/8931
Hurricane Katrina-Our Experiences

Larry Bradshaw, Lorrie Beth Slonsky

Two days after Hurricane Katrina struck New Orleans, the Walgreen's store at the corner of Royal and Iberville streets remained locked. The dairy display case was clearly visible through the widows. It was now 48 hours without electricity, running water, plumbing. The milk, yogurt, and cheeses were beginning to spoil in the 90-degree heat. The owners and managers had locked up the food, water, pampers, and prescriptions and fled the City. Outside Walgreen's windows, residents and tourists grew increasingly thirsty and hungry.

The much-promised federal, state and local aid never materialized and the windows at Walgreen's gave way to the looters. There was an alternative. The cops could have broken one small window and distributed the nuts, fruit juices, and bottle water in an organized and systematic manner. But they did not. Instead they spent hours playing cat and mouse, temporarily chasing away the looters.

We were finally airlifted out of New Orleans two days ago and arrived home yesterday (Saturday). We have yet to see any of the TV coverage or look at a newspaper. We are willing to guess that there were no video images or front-page pictures of European or affluent white tourists looting the Walgreen's in the French Quarter.
We also suspect the media will have been inundated with "hero" images of the National Guard, the troops and the police struggling to help the "victims" of the Hurricane. What you will not see, but what we witnessed,were the real heroes and sheroes of the hurricane relief effort: the working class of New Orleans. The maintenance workers who used a fork lift to carry the sick and disabled. The engineers, who rigged, nurtured and kept the generators running. The electricians who improvised thick extension cords stretching over blocks to share the little electricity we had in order to free cars stuck on rooftop parking lots. Nurses who took over for mechanical ventilators and spent many hours on end manually forcing air into the lungs of unconscious patients to keep them alive. Doormen who rescued folks stuck in elevators. Refinery workers who broke into boat yards, "stealing" boats to rescue their neighbors clinging to their roofs in flood waters. Mechanics who helped hot-wire any car that could be found to ferry people out of the City. And the food service workers who scoured the commercial kitchens improvising communal meals for hundreds of those stranded.

Most of these workers had lost their homes, and had not heard from members of their families, yet they stayed and provided the only infrastructure for the 20% of New Orleans that was not under water.
On Day 2, there were approximately 500 of us left in the hotels in the French Quarter. We were a mix of foreign tourists, conference attendees like ourselves, and locals who had checked into hotels for safety and shelter from Katrina. Some of us had cell phone contact with family and friends outside of New Orleans. We were repeatedly told that all sorts of resources including the National Guard and scores of buses were pouring in to the City. The buses and the other resources must have been invisible because none of us had seen them.
We decided we had to save ourselves. So we pooled our money and came up with $25,000 to have ten buses come and take us out of the City. Those who did not have the requisite $45.00 for a ticket were subsidized by those who did have extra money. We waited for 48 hours for the buses, spending the last 12 hours standing outside, sharing the limited water, food, and clothes we had. We created a priority boarding area for the sick, elderly and new born babies. We waited late into the night for the "imminent" arrival of the buses. The buses never arrived. We later learned that the minute the arrived to the City limits, they were commandeered by the military.
By day 4 our hotels had run out of fuel and water. Sanitation was dangerously abysmal. As the desperation and despair increased, street crime as well as water levels began to rise. The hotels turned us out and locked their doors, telling us that the "officials" told us to report to the convention center to wait for more buses. As we entered the center of the City, we finally encountered the National Guard. The Guards told us we would not be allowed into the Superdome as the City's primary shelter had descended into a humanitarian and health hellhole. The guards further told us that the City's only other shelter, the Convention Center, was also descending into chaos and squalor and that the police were not allowing anyone else in. Quite naturally, we asked, "If we can't go to the only 2 shelters in the City, what was our alternative?" The guards told us that that was our problem, and no they did not have extra water to give to us. This would be the start of our numerous encounters with callous and hostile "law enforcement".

We walked to the police command center at Harrah's on Canal Street and were told the same thing, that we were on our own, and no they did not have water to give us. We now numbered several hundred. We held a mass meeting to decide a course of action. We agreed to camp outside the police command post. We would be plainly visible to the media and would constitute a highly visible embarrassment to the City officials. The police told us that we could not stay.

Regardless, we began to settle in and set up camp. In short order, the police commander came across the street to address our group. He told us he had a solution: we should walk to the Pontchartrain Expressway and cross the greater New Orleans Bridge where the police had buses lined up to take us out of the City. The crowed cheered and began to move. We called everyone back and explained to the commander that there had been lots of misinformation and wrong information and was he sure that there were buses waiting for us. The commander turned to the crowd and stated emphatically, "I swear to you that the buses are there."

We organized ourselves and the 200 of us set off for the bridge with great excitement and hope. As we marched pasted the convention center, many locals saw our determined and optimistic group and asked where we were headed. We told them about the great news. Families immediately grabbed their few belongings and quickly our numbers doubled and then doubled again. Babies in strollers now joined us, people using crutches, elderly clasping walkers and others people in wheelchairs. We marched the 2-3 miles to the freeway and up the steep incline to the Bridge. It now began to pour down rain, but it did not dampen our enthusiasm.

As we approached the bridge, armed Gretna sheriffs formed a line across the foot of the bridge. Before we were close enough to speak, they began firing their weapons over our heads. This sent the crowd fleeing in various directions. As the crowd scattered and dissipated, a few of us inched forward and managed to engage some of the sheriffs in conversation. We told them of our conversation with the police commander and of the commander's assurances. The sheriffs informed us there were no buses waiting. The commander had lied to us to get us to move.

We questioned why we couldn't cross the bridge anyway, especially as there was little traffic on the 6-lane highway. They responded that the West Bank was not going to become New Orleans and there would be no Superdomes in their City. These were code words for if you are poor and black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River and you were not getting out of New Orleans.

SNIP

We arrived at the airport on the day a massive airlift had begun. The airport had become another Superdome. We 8 were caught in a press of humanity as flights were delayed for several hours while George Bush landed briefly at the airport for a photo op. After being evacuated on a coast guard cargo plane, we arrived in San Antonio, Texas.
There the humiliation and dehumanization of the official relief effort continued. We were placed on buses and driven to a large field where we were forced to sit for hours and hours. Some of the buses did not have air-conditioners. In the dark, hundreds if us were forced to share two filthy overflowing porta-potties. Those who managed to make it out with any possessions (often a few belongings in tattered plastic bags) we were subjected to two different dog-sniffing searches.
Most of us had not eaten all day because our C-rations had been confiscated at the airport because the rations set off the metal detectors. Yet, no food had been provided to the men, women, children, elderly, disabled as they sat for hours waiting to be "medically screened" to make sure we were not carrying any communicable diseases.
SNIP

LARRY BRADSHAW, chief steward of the Paramedic Chapter of SEIU Local 790 in the Bay Area, and LORRIE BETH SLONSKY, a member of the same chapter and editor of the Gurney Gazette. The authors, along with dozens of fellow union members, were trapped by the hurricane while attending a paramedic convention in New Orleans.










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Tace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:38 AM
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1. The Sheriffs Should Be Tried For Genocide
and jailed for life.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:39 AM
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2. Any numbers available....I heard that officials are claiming that
...only a few thousand persons perished during the entire week. That is far short of the 35,000 that some are saying died during and following Katrina.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:46 AM
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5. "only a few thousand"
gosh, then let's not worry about it!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:03 AM
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18. only a few thousand dead and things are working out for the lucky ducky
survivors who have it much better now than their previously underpriviledged existence.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:40 AM
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3. I had a feeling the barricades were about the NO suburbs...
...not wanting "the riff-raff" infiltrating their little slices of heaven.

NGU.


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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:43 AM
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4. As more and more people get out these stories will flood
the newtorks and destroy *'s attempt to cover his sorry ass.
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:46 AM
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6. And so
the truth of the matter will come forth one honest voice at a time.

Yes it will. And we will all learn about love and hate and about the lies.

180
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 09:47 AM
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7. First time I've ever heard of people making a disaster worse. Thanks
for the stories.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 10:09 AM
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8. maybe the first time you heard of it
but it isn't the first time it happened. Check out the flood of 1927. That time, too, blacks were segregated and kept under horrific conditions by white men at gun point.

George W. Bush has a lot to answer for.
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:12 PM
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10. is the us media ready to tell these stories?
Will we see any of these tortured souls being interveiewed on CNN this evening?

There is a plan, you know.
Ship all the evacuees as far and wide as possible; do not tell them where they are going.
Shut them up asap.
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bigw1313 Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:12 PM
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13. I have lost your logic in this.
I am not happy with the way the Feds responded but everything that was reported in this piece put blame on local gov't. We should not be giving a pass to anyone who failed. From the mayor, local police and fire, state, governer and then up to the Feds. I believe that if we try to blame Bush for things that are not his fault our credibility when we blame him for things that are is fault will suffer. If local sheriffs screw up blame them and their leaders. If FEMA screws up blame them and their leaders.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 05:08 PM
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17. From the viewpoint of the victims, local gov't is all they saw for
the first four days. There's your explanation. Doesn't let FEMA off the hook, at all.
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:11 AM
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20. are you replying to me?
I didn't say "George Bush has a lot to answer for" because I think he should be let off the hook. I said that because I think he deserves the lion's share of the blame. When people say "X has a lot to answer for," they always mean that "X" is to blame.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 12:00 PM
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9. kick.
So sad.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:06 PM
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11. We need to collect these!
Gods, what brutal, lethal incompetence.

The Sheriff of Gretna needs to be shot.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 01:50 PM
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12. FEMA outsourced 'catastrophic' hurricane plan
www.ieminc.com got the contract for SE Louisiana/New Orleans. Taxpayers should ask for the money back.

Note that in the catastrophic even the plan was for FEMA et al to act when the levees breach in a high category hurricane.

FEMA failed to act in a timely matter. The busing contracts, from out of state, need to be investigated also. They're blaming the mayor and the governor who were overwhelmed. FEMA and the feds failed in their duties.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:12 PM
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14. .
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 02:22 PM
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15. It sounds to me like what happened was that local police forces and
first responders were overwhelmed by a disaster of epic proportions, from which federal aid was withheld. Most of the local cops and other people in authority and rescue personnel would be in various states of trauma themselves; probably everybody in the city had PTSS, in the midst of a never-ending emergency. It's a situation of extreme stress. The best and the worst in people can come out. They are in a raw state. They've all seen their city destroyed; many have lost someone (or more), are suffering sleep deprivation, hunger, lack of liquids, and may be in a state of fear about their own safety. This is WHY we HAVE a federal government and mutual aid agreements. It's a given that local forces cannot handle emergencies like this. And much of what we read in these accounts, here, is the result of FEMA and the feds *not* giving aid.

The cops who promised buses may not have been lying. They may have been trying to give hope; or they may themselves have been given misinformation, or disinformation. FEMA's role in all this, and Bush's, and Cheney's, are highly suspect. There is a thread listing all the aid that FEMA refused from other states, or obstructed, or could have provided and did not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4660874

The USS Bataan was right offshore with a hospital, doctors, rescue helicopters and food and water stocked up. They couldn't get an order from Bush, and couldn't act without it. What was going on here? It sounds so much 9/11, like the Navy was stood down.

That's sure what it looks like, in everything FEMA did and didn't do. The head of FEMA *issued orders* for rescue crews from other states NOT TO LEAVE their jurisdictions, NOT to respond, without proper legal requests. You just DON'T DO this in an emergency. You have to get rescuers on the road and into the air, in motion toward the disaster, on what may be incomplete orders or requests--and you do the paper work on route, or later. You can't wait. People are dying! So this "do not respond" order from FEMA is inexplicable--and points to sinister motives, rather than incompetence, or blundering, or confusion.

And the local cops and authorities may have been as bewildered as the firemen and doctors and first responders and others all over the country, ready to help and turned down or delayed. But the locals were a whole lot more tired and at the end of their wits' end--with help promised, and expected, and never arriving.

This doesn't excuse mistreatment and racism, although it may be something of an excuse for neglect. They simply did not have the resources to do anything--and they probably feared the crowd if they had arrived with meager resources. Think of their state of mind, their own exhaustion, anxiety, trauma and fear--and that of their commanders. What should their people be told to do--if they had little or no food to give, or water, or other help? Their own minds were probably reeling.

And this went on and on and on--with no help arriving, and nothing to provide. The whole situation was so horrendous, I'm amazed there wasn't open warfare--a credit mostly to the victims trapped in these godawful circumstances, about whom a constant stream of disinformation was coming out.

And it's no surprise to hear of local police quitting, and some suicides. The local authorities were in an impossible position--and there also seems to have been mis-direction and obstruction and disinformation happening. Shots fired at a rescue helicopter? None reported to the FAA. Helicopters supposed to sandbag the levee? Helicopters went elsewhere. Buses supposed to be a certain place; none arrive.

It's FEMA that is at fault here, and Bush and the Bush Cartel--an egregious fault of murderous proportions that, of course, goes back to the 80% cut in levee funding, and the utter disregard for governmental responsibility (locals had been begging for the funds for years--which Bush was squandering in Iraq), all the way up to yesterday and today, with what appears to be a deliberate standdown of FEMA in one of the worst disasters in our history. No orders given. No help provided. Obstruction of help everywhere you look in this unfolding story.

No orders given? No positive orders, that is. It sure looks to me like an order to FEMA *not* to help was given by Bush, or possibly Cheney, and was obeyed at FEMA. And neither of them seems to have been in a position to receive advice from the active Naval commanders to activate resources such as the USS Bataan. (They didn't get orders from the President of the United States?!) And I can only speculate on the motives, but, given the history of this regime, I have to presume that the first motive was thievery, that played out something like this: a desire for martial law in order to clear the poor out, and discard those who survived, to confiscate property, to freely loot the new FEMA funds, and the generous donations of other countries, and to transform the city of New Orleans into some kind of Bushite/rich peoples' high security enclave, close to oil reserves, and with no poor people, or music, or color, or life, or culture, or the richness of American history, to disturb their oblivious royal highnesses.

Cheney was AWOL (or apparently so) throughout this disaster, and only after Halliburton had received the first contract for "reconstruction" did he emerge from hiding, and then canceled a trip to Canada "due to Katrina." With people starving, and dehydrated, and dying in their own feces in the cauldrons of the New Orleans detention centers, and people yet to be rescued in three states of the union, and frustrated rescuers all over the country, and hundreds if not thousands of bloated corpses floating around an American city, then and only then did he seem to take an interest in this catastrophe, and we can only imagine what it was.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 09:33 AM
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19. Thanks so much for this perspective, Peace Patriot.
After reading the experiences in the original post...I was so filled with rage at Bush (and one wonders how much more rage can be directed at that man and his mis-administrtion of crooks & liars).

Living in a hurricane prone area and having been through a couple..(only Category 1 but I had family who went through Hugo a category 4 in SC.) I can have some sense of the bewilderment that everyone had and the shock and confusion because no one knew what was going on and was doing the best they could to survive.

We who watched the News Coverage saw that aid and busses and National Guard were promised and yet we never saw any of that materialize until the "Emperor" arrived and the convoy came in. Remember the reports of the convoys of National Guard with food that were reported to be on the road every day on CNN? I wondered where the hell the convoy was coming from ...Alaska..that it could take that long.

And, why wasn't the famed Red Cross set up in the Superdome ready to feed and help those in that shelter and in the Convention Center? Was the Red Cross kept from setting up those shelters and by whom. Or, is the Red Cross now just another arm of the Bushies.

I do have to question the Mayor of NO's after reading this although I don't know what he was dealing with, and he lost communiction with his police maybe...although there was some cell phone activity in NO's for awhile. Still..something was wrong that the Shelters weren't properly set up and that food and water enough for days wasn't in there. It's very different from what we've seen in coverage of the Florida Hurricanes last year.

The Media focusing on Looters was exactly to playthe a "race and fear" card to take the blame off Bush and FEMA...

There's no way that Bush/Cheney and their cronies didn't allow this disaster to happen for their own purposes. They didn't cause Katrina but they knew they could used it once again like "9/11" to their advantage, it seems.

Thanks for your thoughts on this...it helped alot..

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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-05 04:48 PM
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16. This is what I thought
CONTAINING the African-American people was the first order, keeping them away from white areas.
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buzzsaw_23 Donating Member (631 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:54 PM
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21. Thanks for this post
There is something sinister going down—it's not simply incompetence or negligence.

Came across this quote, don't remember where:
'Today I saw 5,000 African-Americans on Highway 10, desperate, perishing, dehydrating, babies crying - it looked like the hold of a slave ship. It's so ugly and obvious. The issue of race as a factor will not go away.'
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