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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:08 PM
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It's time for a woman president
<snip> A new television series premiering later this month features Geena Davis as the first female president of the United States. As vice president, she takes office after the president dies.

To coincide with the show, Roper Public Affairs conducted a poll that found overwhelming acceptance of a female president among Americans. Seventy-nine percent said they feel comfortable with the idea of a female president, 84 percent said they would be comfortable with a female vice president and 90 percent were fine with a female Supreme Court Chief Justice. <snip>

Forty-six countries have had female prime ministers or presidents, including the Central African Republic, Portugal, Bolivia, Dominica, Iceland, Norway, Yugoslavia, Malta, Luthuania, France, Rwanda, Turkey, Haiti, Switzerland, Mongolia and Bulgaria. <snip>

After the levee broke and flooded New Orleans in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, would Ms. President's administration have taken four days to get food and water to the people stranded there? That's a no with capital letters. NO. <snip>

http://www.insidebayarea.com/opinionseditorials/ci_3040647





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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:10 PM
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1. of course this is just greasing the skids to allow a smoother passage
for the first woman president, Hillary R Clinton.

Seems like a done deal in the halls of power to me.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:14 PM
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4. Hillary will win the democratric ticket most likely
of course it will be the right side of the fence that gets her there.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:24 PM
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10. Says who? eom
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:15 PM
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5. Exactly...
sadly. :eyes:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:21 PM
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8. The rightwing pushes the idea that Hillary will run as red-meat ..
.. to their Clinton-hating base, and I know of absolutely no evidence that she is contemplating a run for the office.

Although I do really admire the Senator, I suspect nobody with brain wants to replace one political dynasty with another, and I myself wouldn't support her in the primaries.

There are a hundred million women in this country, and many are smart and talented. Why would anyone think we had only one real choice?

Even if you were right -- and of course you provide no evidence whatsoever -- I've never met a political "done deal" that folkscouldn't get "undone," if they really cared enough ...
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:31 PM
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17. good points
Hillary may not run. I hope she doesn't to tell you the truth.
You are right as well that we have a large pool of very talented women to choose from. How many have enough power/money to get in the club though, because after all it is an exclusive club to get into. Hillary has been working awfully hard to join it seems to me.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:12 PM
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2. As long as it's not a Republican woman president (nt)
nt
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:25 PM
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12. How is it possible to be both a woman and a republican?
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:33 PM
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18. Go to the south east US for your answer
It's not a mens only club.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:13 PM
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3. The United States of White Christian America is not ready for a female
president.

Sad but true people, sorry it's not going to happen not for a lonnnnnnng time.

You'll see a Mexican or Italian Catholic become president before you see a woman become president.

Hey I'd vote for a woman for president (not Hillary though) it's just my belief that the flat earthers who still cling to their Puritan beliefs who also make up over half the country will never vote for a woman for pres.
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BamaLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:24 PM
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9. Here Is A White, Christian, American
that is a big Democrat.

So, lay off the stereotypes okay? I don't like being associated with the Repub camp. ;)
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hardrainfallin Donating Member (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:34 PM
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22. Conyers 2008. No comment.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:16 PM
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6. Women Equality has been very good, to me, as problem solvers they ...
Beat us hands down.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:19 PM
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7. I think it's time for a gay atheist for president.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:36 PM
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19. exactly
compassion without the thump of the good book.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:47 AM
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28. Hey! How about a German with a little mustache for President?!
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:24 PM
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11. sure. i'll up you one. black woman. here comes condi.
Edited on Sun Sep-18-05 09:26 PM by enki23
wouldn't that be wonderful? maybe she could keep rove on the payroll.

can we stop pretending women are inherently better now? it demeans them. we're all in this same fucking fight together, and women aren't any kinder or gentler when it comes down to the realities of governing a nation. maybe if you picked one at random from the general population, the equation would change.

but that's just not how it would happen.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:26 PM
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14. I don't like that idea. W would become "first man"
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:27 PM
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15. IMHO, not a chance: Condi's cold, argumentative, and evasive. eom
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:28 PM
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16. OK. Then he'd become "first rejected suitor"
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:26 PM
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13. Interesting.
My daughter was telling me just yesterday that this subject came up in her sociology class. She has a very diverse class, with almost equal numbers of black/white/hispanic as well as male/female, and even a couple of Asian Indian and Arab students in the mix.

The question was whether the United States would have a black president or a female president first. The nearly unanimous opinion was that Americans will more readily accept a black male president over a female -- because gender prejudice is even stronger in this country than racial prejudice. I'm not certain that's true, but I thought it was an interesting reaction from the class.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:00 PM
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24. In my experience, folks in late high school or college, whatever ..
.. their immaturities, can be quite sophisticated and sensitive observers of cultural phenomena. On an issue like this, I'd seriously consider betting that the students were right ...
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:14 PM
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26. I agree.
She's a sophomore at community college and this class consists of mostly 19 to 20-year-olds, with a few in their mid 20s. They have a pretty diverse collection of viewpoints on things, but they were pretty united on this one.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 09:55 PM
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20. It's time for an adult president. The adolescents don't do a job for
anyone but their friends.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:02 PM
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21. I don't think that Amerika HAS pResidents anymore
We have Emperors pre-selected in rigged Reality Shows.

But if we WERE still free and if we DID still have a say as to who leads Amerika, then I would say perhaps so.

But I don't think the Imperial Family will permit a woman to ascend to their throne.

And it is THEIR throne, and whoever is permitted to sit upon it in 2008 will be a Bushevik Lackey, and the same bunch will run things.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 11:02 PM
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25. Tom, Tom! You had so much more fire in your belly in the 1770's!
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:26 AM
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29. Thr original Tom Paine lived during the Age of Enlightenment
when the Darkenss of the Middle Ages was being repudiated...but only after it's 1000 year murderous reign.

We sit here at the end of the Age of Enlightenment, at the beginning of the next Age of Darkness, waving candles about trying to stave it off. Had the original Mr. Paine lived at such a time, he would have railed against it, but he also would have understood what was coming.

What IS coming.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 06:14 PM
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32. By nature, I am inclined to share your pessimism but ..
.. assuming that failure and defeat are inevitable seems to me a foolproof recipe for failure and defeat: if we want change, we must act as if we believe change is possible ...
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mntleo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-18-05 10:44 PM
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23. Just Want A GOOD President
As a former feminist (probably the first one in Seattle), I do not care anymore if it is a woman or a man. Just be intelligent, humane, hard working, diplomatic, politically savvy, command respect, and not a warmonger. Oh and DON'T be a corporate whore!

Frankly I have seen little difference between women and men when it comes to management. It was thought in the beginning of the feminist movement in the 70's that women would be more family friendly, manage better workplaces, yada, yada. But I found that women could be just as cold and clueless as men. I have had four good bosses in my 35 years of working for a paycheck and one of them was a woman ~ and I have had just as many women bosses as men.

There are a couple people of color I would like to see as my president, starting with John Conyers and perhaps Barak Obama....Conyers or Obama and Barbara Boxer or Maxine Waters would be good duos....

My 2 cents

Cat In Seattle
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 12:10 AM
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27. I don't think that is allowed anymore. Good President? Intelligent
President? Qualified President?

I think the corporations have tasted the 'candy'. Will be hard to get them to give up the power that comes with a "puppet".
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:21 AM
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30. Women are the majority.
So they should rule. Simple as that.

Also don't forget Queens or Empresses as rulers either.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:51 AM
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31. Well, not all women would be more empathetic
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 11:52 AM by Cleita
than Bush. Think of Condaleeza Rice (shopping for shoes while the hurricane hit) or Katherine Harris. However, I do feel there is a gender imbalance in our political system. Since women are half the population, our representation should be half.
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