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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:24 PM
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The Inevitable War with Iran
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The Inevitable War with Iran
Mike Whitney

September 21, 2005

If Washington wants a war with Iran, there'll be a war with Iran. That's the great lesson of the Iraq war; once the decision is made, there's no turning back.

So, why are the main-players; England, France and Germany stumbling over themselves trying to placate Bush as though the conflict can be avoided? Threatening to bring Iran before the Security Council won't alter the administrations plans one bit. Like the Downing Street memo stated, "The facts and intelligence were fit to meet the policy". It's the same here. No amount of groveling from the EU-3 will appease Washington once Tehran is in its crosshairs. The EU-3 would be better off sending arms and ammunition to Iran so the people can defend themselves once bombs start to fly.

We should consider the implications of preemptive war against Iran before the situation begins to escalate. The Islamic state has no nuclear weapons, no nuclear weapons-program, and no verifiable evidence that it will be building nuclear weapons in the future. In other words, the US is planning an attack against a nation that does not even meet its minimal requirements for aggression. There is no moral or legal justification for such a war, just as there was no moral or legal justification for the invasion of Iraq. Nevertheless, I believe that the decision to attack Iran was made long ago, perhaps even before the Iraq war; and that that will be carried out in the very near future. The last obstacle was the German election. The administration believed that Ms. Angela Merkel would win a hands-down victory; putting a fellow neocon in the drivers-seat of Europe's largest economy. It would be like having Maggie Thatcher in Bonn. Merkel could be counted on to support the expansion of NATO (which is, to say, the extension of American power), to dismantle the social-welfare system, energize the privatization processes, quash the movement for an independent EU military, strengthen ties with the US and Israel, and disrupt European solidarity. All this fits within the Washington neocon vision of a balkanized, free-market Europe operating as a subordinate to the US overlord.

If the US or Israel had attacked Iran before the German elections, Ms. Merkel, who has promised to rebuilt the trans-Atlantic relationship, would have taken a decisive nosedive in the polls. As it turns out, the election results were inconclusive and will probably not affect the storm clouds that are gathering over Tehran.

The die is cast. There will be a war.

The media has already begun the steady drum-beat of specious charges directed at the Islamic government. All of the major news-providers (New York Times, AP, Washington Post, Night Ridder etc) are now describing Iran as "defiant" or "thumbing their nose" at the world community, or, worse, "out of compliance" with prior agreements.


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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:26 PM
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1. There Better NOT BE War With Iran
not even the spineless suckups in the House could let that go by.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:31 PM
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2. They would need a draft to do a war with Iran
and neither I, nor anybody I know of who is draft age, would serve.
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:41 PM
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3. No draft will be necessary
this will be a war fought with nuclear weapons - either by us or by our proxy Israel
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:39 PM
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5. Yes,that has been the opinion of analysts, media that have
been following the yellow brick road on this. even the dunderheads running after dumsfeld doing his bidding realize there is no way they would be able to 'throw a net' or send in enough troops to contain the populations of Iran.
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RageFist Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:52 PM
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4. I HOPE with all of my being he is wrong...IMO there would be a draft nt
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:46 PM
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6. they think that a terrorist attack will make draft acceptable
Cheney told Air Force to plan nuke and conventional strikes on Iran in retaliation for a terrorist attack, whether or not Iran did it.

I hope that people in the upper echelon of the military feel some loyalty to their country and humanity ahead of their fear of the Bush machine.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:03 PM
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7. god, I hope they feel some loyalty,too!
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 08:21 PM
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8. I am not sure that Bush has the support to wage such a foolish
war or the troops. However, in his feeble mind it might appear to be a way to get his popularity back. It is frightening to imagine what Rove is busy concocting.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:03 PM
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9. I guess * can always blame Israel
After the first American carrier battle group since PH, is destroyed.

My sense is that a "preemptive" attack on Iran will go horribly wrong. Problem is, it won't be the chimp who pays the price, as usual. There is also the possibility that the fielded military might actually refuse these orders. One can only hope there is somebody sane in the chain of military executors who is actually capable of acting in his country's REAL interest. Not just a death-dealing robot.

Gyre
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 11:18 PM
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10. He is wrong.
There will be war with Iran only if Iran does something stupid
like invading Iraq.
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