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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:48 AM
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Must Read Essay: There is No Iraq
by Cenk Uygur - HuffingtonPost

I am telling you, this is one of the most logical and thoughtful essays about the Iraq quagmire to-date.
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There is No Iraq (66 comments )

Everyone is wrong -- from the arrogant neo-clowns who brought you this war to the mindless bureaucrats who maintain it to the well-intentioned intellectuals that are grasping for a decent and humane way out.
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Whether people want to leave or stay, the assumption is that they have what is best for Iraq in mind.

But there is no Iraq.

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The Sunnis have already rejected the constitution and the Shiites don’t appear to be overly concerned about their lack of approval. It is wishful thinking bordering on fantasy to think that these different sects will get back together and live peacefully ever after. Eventually, the Shiites will have just as much trouble controlling the Sunni areas as we do. Their occupation will not be any more effective than ours. The Kurds will drive the Arabs from Kirkuk, and the separation will be complete.

There is no Iraq. It does not exist in the minds and souls of the Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. There will be three different countries in the place we call Iraq, whether we like it or not.

Now, the question isn’t whether our troops stay or withdraw. Neither action would help towards a long term solution because we are headed the wrong way. If we stayed a thousand years, we couldn’t keep Iraq together. If we left now, there would be instant, horrific bloodshed. Neither accomplishes anything.

What we should be doing is working towards a realistic goal – a relatively peaceful transition towards three different countries in the area. We might not be able to keep these people together but we could probably help them to separate.

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more at the link:
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/there-is-no-iraq_b_8118.html>


There's a great quote at the bottom about * and nuance. This guy Cenk writes some of the best material about this misAdministration that is out there on the Internet.
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diddlysquat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:56 AM
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1. This is really very good. Thanks for posting.
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:03 AM
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2. I always try to read whatever Cenk has posted.

Well, since HuffPo has been around, anyway.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:06 AM
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3. See also this thread:
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:20 AM
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5. Oops! I did a search for

the exact title, and I was searcing in Editorials, too. That never seems to work out for me.
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:12 AM
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4. Iraqi Constitution is in reality a truce agreement
that only two of the three warring factions signed on to. The secret NeoCon plan is taking effect. Its a secret worldwide war to divide Muslims:

* Sunni vs. Shiite
* Arab vs. non-Arab

Instead of a rational policy that encourages moderation and reason they seek to set everything afire and rebuild out of the ashes.



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