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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:55 PM
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ANTI-WAR FRAMING: Talk about OIL MOTIVE for Iraq war and FAILURE
in even those terms.

If you move that to the top of the list, essentially answering Cindy Sheehan's question, "What noble cause?" you effectively do two a couple of things:


  • Most cynically, you've given the press a "new" angle on the story

  • You make the lies about the causes look that much more embarrassing and hollow

  • You show that they have failed at even their own agenda

  • Once you have shown that it isn't really a kill or be killed issue, you have freed people to consider other options to address the problems driving the war

  • Most importantly, you have innoculated the public against the propaganda for the next war.


You can get the real goal down to a sentence: As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.

Businessmen do things to make money. Iraq has trillions of dollars worth of oil, but they aren't even pumping as much as they did before the war, so they failed to even effectively steal oil.

Then shut up. Don't talk about Mumia, the Dalai Lama, WMD, or even Osama.

Change the terms of the debate to put them on the defensive.

Think about it. They must know this is their achilles heel or they wouldn't be trying so God damn hard to avoid talking about it.


We have got to get that handful of elected officials who are doing their job to zero in on this like a laser beam, and eventually it will soak in just as the fact that the Bush administration LIED finally has.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 03:10 PM
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1. The most important part: "Don't talk about Mumia, the Dalai Lama WMD..."
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 03:11 PM by brainshrub
IMHO, that's the problem with ANSWER. They are great at getting people to the streets, but their message is so all-encompassing, that that it's difficult to get everyone on the same page.

That's why the speakers at an ANSWER rally sound like endless rants. After an hour of people yelling at you for all the reasons America sucks, who the hells wants to associate with them after-wards?

Stick to one message and hammer it in until the opponents ears bleed.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:39 PM
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6. I agree with them on most things but get frustrated with
everything but the kitchen sink approach to speakers at their demonstrations.

Think about the soccer moms who are worried about their kids being drafted, and stay on message for that audience--essentially aim at the next wave of Cindy Sheehans.
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 03:26 PM
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2. Three Words: Defense Planning Guidance
the report Wolfiwitz wrote up for then SOD Cheney which essentially called for the need to immediately jump at the chance to acquire by virtually any means necessary more petrolium even if it meant going to war for it. (Actually going to war for it was the way they had it planned all along)

This was written in 2002 and unfortunately for the likes of Cheney, Wolfie, Rumsfeld and other PNAC crooks the Clinton Admin rejected it, but of course once they got their puppet into the WH.....

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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:36 PM
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4. link for that one? sounds good...
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:42 PM
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7. Right here for you I made a whole thread about this subject
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:07 PM
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3. Key: As the world's oil supply begins to decline
As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.


That's the whole issue- Ariel Sharon, Likud, Mumia, the Dalai Lama, WMD, or Osama - pure and simple diversions to divide our cause.

Backup on DU:

    1)

    2)

    Keep It Simple Stupid ("KISS") - As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.


Non techie backup:

    1) James Howard Kunstler, The Long Emergency: Surviving the End of the Oil Age, Climate Change, and Other Converging Catastrophes of the Twenty-first Century

    2) Matthem R. Simmons, Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy

    3) F. William Engdahl, A Century Of War : Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order

    Don't be diverted - stay on message - As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.


Understandable and Readable techie backup:

    1) Ken Deffeyes, Beyond Oil : The View from Hubbert's Peak

    2) Ken Deffeyes, Hubbert's Peak : The Impending World Oil Shortage

    3) Amory Lovins, Winning the Oil Endgame

    Take home at the end of the day - As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.


My Blog


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    Just Remember - As the world's oil supply begins to decline, they wanted to make sure American companies control the spigot.







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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:37 PM
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5. thanks for the backup--if you can think of a simpler way to say it
let me (and everyone else know)
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:01 PM
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9. They should have known in the mid-50's (Hubert's Paper Published)
They knew in the 1980's (OPEC Oil Embargo)
But they didn't do anything but give us the NeoCon alternative of American Blood for Oil.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:47 PM
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8. give me some nominations to get this noticed!
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