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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:02 PM
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New law will require marriage as a legal condition of motherhood
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 07:04 PM by Selteri
http://www.boomantribune.com/?op=displaystory;sid=2005/10/3/223530/406

I found this on the internet and hope that it's just one of those rumors and not a fact, yet I can't actually say I'd be unsurprised by such.

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Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make
marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana,
including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do
become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."

According to a draft of the recommended change in state law, every
woman in Indiana seeking to become a mother throu gh assisted
reproduction therapy such as in vitro fertilization, sperm donation,
and egg donation, must first file for a "petition for parentage" in
their local county probate court.

Only women who are married will be considered for the "gestational
certificate" that must be presented to any doctor who facilitates the
pregnancy. Further, the "gestational certificate" will only be given
to married couples that successfully complete the same screening
process currently required by law of adoptive parents.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:05 PM
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1. What are the chances of this passing? n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:07 PM
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2. This would be struck down immediately.
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:08 PM
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3. Saw it and just was commenting, it never hurts to be aware
of what they are going to try to push through next.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:10 PM
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7. Oh, sure. I just meant that there is no way in hell a court would
let it stand.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:08 PM
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4. WWJMHD?
What would Jesus' Mother have done?

Seriously, that has to be a joke, only married mothers... doesn't it?

We gonna stand for stoning in America? I don't think so.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:24 PM
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12. Joseph would have placed her on Dem donkey
and rode away to Canada!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:26 PM
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16. ...or at least to Canaan.
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Angry Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:09 PM
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5. And I'm assuming the spouse must be of opposite gender....
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 07:13 PM by Angry Girl
There's no other purpose for this, me thinks. Prejudiced bastards.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:10 PM
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6. "Gestational certificates"
Don't they have something like this in China? Like a coupon book or something?

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splat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:13 PM
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8. Wow, a License to Breed! More new taxes! n/t
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 09:24 PM
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18. A license to breed and Congressional approval to die. The Republican
campaign motto for 2006.
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Agnomen Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:13 PM
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9. This has to be a bad joke
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:16 PM
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10. Since when did being married make one
a good mother?

I doubt anyone has any data demonstrating that married mothers are less likely to be abusive of children.

Frankly, I think parenting should require a license--regardless of whether one is married or not. I've said so for years. You have to have a license to drive a car, sell booze, do nails, hair, and what else ad infinitum? Raising a well-adjusted, productive, contributing member of society ought to require some demonstration of competency.

But this is stupid.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:21 PM
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11. Republican morphing into the Nazi Party is happening

faster than I anticipated.

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seejanerun Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:30 PM
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13. What would they do, put people in jail?
Just what we need, more prisoners.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:30 PM
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14. Control freaks
Really.

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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 07:47 PM
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15. What are they going to do?
Mandatory abortions for unwed mothers?

This is either fake, or a really stupid idea.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 08:28 PM
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17. Maybe mandatory adoption.
Or maybe we could grow the confiscated offspring to harvesting age on special organ-donor farms.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:47 PM
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19. I'd like to presume that you are joking. But, I fear that you aren't.
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Boo_Radley Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 06:52 AM
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20. Anti-gay
It looks like it's all about hatin' the gays . . .

http://www.wthitv.com/newsdet.asp?id=9766
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/editorial/12819815.htm
http://www.culturekitchen.com/archives/003478.html

They're trying to prevent gay couples from being able to have surrogates carry for them.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:16 AM
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21. I Want An IQ and Altruism Test for Public Office!
no more nutcases on the school boards, legislatures, or courts! And no psychopaths, sociopaths, borderline personality disordered, or otherwise morally incapable people.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:50 AM
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22. But what about fatherhood?
It says nothing about that. I guess they are talking mostly about artificial insemination but what about all the sperm donors?? Shouldn't they be married too???
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 11:51 AM
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23. Require Constitutional law on the Bar Exam - and as part of annual CLE
Right now to be a lawyer - a law student much take 2 hours (a 2hours/week, one semester course), and maybe, just maybe (subjects on the Bar Exam are randomized), a 45 minute essay question (out of 6 to 16 hours of essay questions). That's it. That's all that is required from the "Guardians" of our Constitution.

They have to take 3 hours of "Professional Ethics, Malpractice Avoidance, and Equal Opportunity" every year - but no annual requirement of Constitutional Law. That's for the "Guardians" of our Constitution.

Result - law that clearly violate our fundamental document - the Constitution -- even the Bill of Rights of the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution -- and such doctrines as the prohibition on establishments of religion, and the guarantees of free exercise of religion and free speech and equal protection of the law and due process of the law.

It is about time we require more "Constitutional" knowledge on the part of our body politic and our lawyers.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:31 PM
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24. So how long until the "Republic of Gilead?"
n/t.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:44 PM
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25. THE BILL HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:45 PM
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26. Not surprised but happy, I hope it's held against them though in elections
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Boo_Radley Donating Member (280 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 10:52 PM
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27. You'd think they'd learn.
"The issue has become more complex than anticipated . . . "

Is "forsight" scratched out of all the dictionaries in the GOP?

Iraq: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.
The Budget: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.
Leaking Plames ID: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.
Foreign relations: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.
Tax cuts: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.
Prisoner interrogation: The issue has become more complex than anticipated.

Why don't these guys try anticipating things from time to time? It seems like all they do is knee-jerk reactions to everything they come across, and then act like they're totally shocked that the issue has become more complex than anticipated.
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