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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:36 PM
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DLC/THIRD WAY Report - Galston & Kamarck-Politics of Polarization
Click on : REPORT: The Politics of Polarization - Download PDF

- All 71 pages!!! - at

http://www.third-way.com/products/index.htm#middleclass
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Conclusion — Beyond Polarization (...Confront the current myths of the Democratic Party.)

<snip>As a number of analysts have noted, recent Republican difficulties have not yet redounded to the advantage of the opposition party. One reason is that up to now, Democrats have found it difficult to articulate a compelling message or an alternative agenda.lv Whatever voters may think of the Republican mantra—strong defense, lower taxes, traditional values—at least they know where Republicans stand. They have no such conviction about the Democrats.<snip>

... Relying on language and “framing” can be a surefire recipe for disaster in an electorate that values personal honesty and integrity even more than experience or positions on issues. Stop hiding behind domestic policy and honestly confront the biggest issue of our time: national defense, and especially the use of military force. The Democratic Party must be able to articulate a coherent foreign policy that is based on a belief in America’s role in the world. While this will cause internal conflict in the Democratic coalition, it will not be any more severe than the fight Bill Clinton sparked when he confronted his coalition with proposals for reforming welfare. This task will fall to Democratic internationalists, who will need to convince their counterparts in the party that America can do good in the world and that, for example, stopping genocide in Darfur — a foreign policy goal the left of the party would probably support — will require the same levels of military strength and preparedness as fighting the war in Iraq, a foreign policy goal they do not support.Democrats must emphasize the importance of the American military as a potential force for good in the world, and in so doing they need to engage “Michael Moore Democrats,” who instinctively view American power as suspect. A focus on military strength goes against the grain of many Democrats, who were weaned on Vietnam and have come to see Iraq as a similar lesson in the futility and immorality of projecting U.S. military power, but these views must be confronted if Democrats are to be coherent on this issue in a time of war. Along with national defense policies that reflect patriotism, strength, and resolve, Democrats must seize the opportunity to offer compelling alternatives to current Republican policies concerning homeland defense and the ultimate nightmare of nuclear weapons in the hands of terrorists, areas in which the Bush Administration’s efforts have fallen woefully short.


Show tolerance and common sense on hot-button social issues. Democrats are right in thinking that most of America is with them when it comes to the broad outlines of the social agenda. We would bet that when Americans’ religiosity comes face-to-face with their desire to solve personal problems in their own homes and families, the desire for freedom from the State will win out. But Democrats must avoid getting trapped in the extremes. They could continue to support the core of Roe v. Wade while dropping their intransigence on questions such as parental notification and partial birth abortion. They could oppose court-imposed gay marriage while favoring decent legal treatment for gay couples and insisting that this is matter for the people of the several states—not the U.S. Constitution or the judiciary—to resolve. And they could take steps to ensure that while the Democratic Party today may be the home of Americans who regard themselves as secular, it will neither be, nor be seen as, the secularist party. At the same time, Democrats must paint a clear picture of Republican extremists, who advocate a level of government intrusion into people’s lives that conflicts with their desire to be left alone.

Support an economic policy that embraces global competition and a modernized social safety net that protects American workers in a vibrant and churning economy. For all their problems, Democrats still have a strong hand when it comes to economic and social safety net issues. But an electoral strategy that involves waiting for economic disaster is not a plan worth having. Democrats need to keep in touch with the economic challenges of this century, not the last. A serious, forward-looking opposition party would respond to this new situation, and to public concerns, with ideas as large as the problems they address — with nothing less than a 21st century economic and social policy. The reason is this: while no nation can hope to succeed by walling itself off from the world, in circumstances of rising global competition, a vibrant national economy will inevitably involve lots of churning. Businesses will succeed and fail; jobs will be created and destroyed. Average citizens will tolerate this level of uncertainty and risk only if it is combined with a strong social safety net so that they will not lose everything when markets change. The core of this approach would require returning to the notion of social insurance as protection against catastrophe — whether an impoverished old age, or the personal and family stress produced by long-term unemployment, or bankruptcy caused by unaffordable and uninsured health care expenses — while ensuring that every American enjoys this protection.

Finally, Democrats have to pay more attention to the very personal qualityof elections, especially presidential elections, in the media age.Recent Democratic candidates have failed to establish the bond of trust with the electorate that is so essential to modern elections. Consistency, personal morality, and above all authenticity are critical in a media age — which is why the myth of language discussed above threatens to lead Democratic candidates down the wrong path. Time and again we have seen the same story in elections — especially presidential elections. The public says that it agrees with the Democrats on the issues, but it votes for Republicans. In 2004, most Democratic advisors assumed that the steady drumbeat of bad news out of Iraq would hurt President Bush. And by Election Day, a slight majority of Americans agreed that the war was going badly. But they voted for Bush, not only because he persuaded a majority that our Iraq mission (however difficult and discouraging) was part of the larger war against terrorism, but also because he managed to convey strength, certainty and conviction. The presidential vote is the most personal political decision that Americans make. There is a personality threshold which, all too often, Democratic candidates have failed to understand and therefore to cross. In 1988, Michael Dukakis failed to understand how his legalistic stance on a host of hot-button issues, from the Pledge of Allegiance to Willie Horton to anchor Bernard Shaw’s famous question of what he would do if his wife were raped, created an impression of his character that was unacceptable. In 2000, Al Gore, a politician known for his honesty and integrity, could not reverse the impression — created by a series of trivial anecdotes — that he was somehow not trustworthy. In 2004, John Kerry could never transcend the interpretation of indecision and lack of conviction placed on his record in Vietnam and in the Senate. We would argue that of all the tests national candidates must pass, the personality test is the most important. This test may be summarized in three questions that voters are asking and that candidates must answer to their satisfaction. First: Is the candidate a person of strength, with core convictions and the ability to act on them through challenges and criticism? Second: Is the candidate a person of integrity, who displays consistency over time, who tells the truth, and whose words and deeds coincide? And third: Is the candidate a person of empathy, who understands and cares about people like us? It is not possible for us to draw out fully the practical implications of these questions. But some things are clear on their face. Candidates who say only what they think others want to hear cannot display strength. Candidates who shift position on what should be matters of conviction can not pass the integrity tests. And candidates who are far removed from the lives and feelings of average families will have a hard time understanding the daily challenges these families face, or credibly conveying care and concern about them.... Republicans have become adept at deploying a social populist agenda of national strength and traditional values to weld the denizens of corporate boardrooms and NASCAR race tracks. The Democratic Party has not yet found a comparably effective formula for bringing its post-McGovern surge of educated professionals together with the average families who continue to hope for some relief from the burdens and uncertainties of the modern economy. Until it does, national Democratic candidates will remain vulnerable to Republican efforts to portray them as elitists, which has always been the kiss of political death in this viscerally egalitarian
nation.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 07:39 PM
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1. Please note that I am not "DLC" but I did find this report interesting
The 71 pages are a bit much - and I and I am sure many at DU disagree on the analysis - but I think it is worth a read.

:toast:

:-)
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whirlygigspin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 08:18 PM
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2. the crux
"Democratic candidates will remain vulnerable to Republican efforts to portray them as elitists...in this egalitarian nation"


Here's a radical idea: Dems stop choosing beltway elites (senators) as Presidential candidates and choose a populist instead.

Now, was that so difficult?

But who? who? who? the screamer from Vermont? oh to dream.

Gore Vidal? Oprah?

I say Robert Redford.

He's a fine man. Seasoned, thoughtful and appealing.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-08-05 09:06 PM
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3. Dean was my first thought also - we will see what State Gov we have out
Edited on Sat Oct-08-05 09:07 PM by papau
there after 06 and if any are able to sell the "I am smart but not an elitist" any better that the Arkansas lady who is now a Senator can sell it.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:58 AM
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4. The problem is that many DLCers don't realize that they are...
...the elitists.

I found the article interesting. But found many flaws. Thanks Papau for posting it.

First, the argument about break down: 42% Conservative and 30% Liberal is one example. This is not a fair break down in that in doesn't explain what constitutes a conservative or liberal. Plus, liberal has such a stigma, whereas conservative doesn't.

Second, the analysis on Bill Clinton and the effect of Ross Perot. First off, they downplay Perot's affect in Clinton's victory. They seem to want it both ways. Arguing that Perot voters were conservatives, but never acknowledging that this is what led to Clinton's victory. Third Way never having anything to do with it.

Third, they just say that Perot's main issue was "the deficit" and nothing more. In fact, one of Perot's "main" arguments was his opposition to NAFTA. Remember "that great sucking sound?" Remember how Perot debated Al Gore on Larry King Live on NAFTA? The article seems to imply that the Perot voters went back to the Republicans because we were "too liberal" between 1992 and 1994. Yet, it offers no evidence of this. It seems to miss the NAFTA debate all together as a potential reason for the actions of Perot voters. Yet, wasn't NAFTA a DLC issue? Wasn't that suppose to win us support? Isn't that a complete contradiction?

The problem with this article is that it is very self-serving. It see's what it wants to see and manipulates the numbers to "prove" its point. At one point the article stated that Gore (in 2000) had a proposal to "increase" military spending by $100 million more than Bush. Yet, the public still saw Bush as stronger on defense. This is important because it undermines their entire argument. If we still lose elections after being "tougher" on issues such as defense, what does that tell you? Look at history...conservatives, in America and elsewhere, seem to do better on such issues. Maybe the goal therefore is to champion an issue that people support us on rather than try to appease a group which has shown no interest of voting for us in the past or present.

Which brings me to my last point. It is the major problem I have with the logic of this argument. Primarily that it misses the point. There are Democrats, Republicans and Independants. The number break down is pretty clear. 42% Democrats. 38% Republicans. 20% Independant. There are more Democrats than Republicans. Democrats always vote Democratic, and Republicans always vote Republican. Which is probably why we always seem to have a small lead in the polls (both in Congress and for President). But then there are the undecideds or independants. Why are they independant and/or undecided? It is simple. Because on some issues they agree with us, and on other issues they agree with the Republicans.

I have no doubt that these people are moderate to conservative. But that is besides the point. There are issues which the Democrats advocate, which they support, otherwise they would just be republicans. But we lose the independants. THAT IS THE ISSUE. We lose them because we concede the framing of the debate to the Republicans which target the issues that these independants support them on. We simply play follow the leader. Worse still, we take positions - such as NAFTA and the war - which these people don't support. So thus, we are left trying to convince these "independants" that we are tougher than we are. Or that we are more republican than we are. We fail at convincing them of this, and voila, we lose the election.

Look at Kerry in 2004. These independants were against the way Bush was handling the economy. Yet they supported him in the way he was conducting the "war on terrorism." This is why they were undecided. Kerry had a built in advantage, in that the 48% of people who eventually voted for him would never have voted for Bush. Which meant that he only needed 2 out of the 6% who were undecided to win the election. Yet, Bush, not surprisingly, made the war on terrorism his issue? What should Kerry have done? He should have explained that the economy was more important. But instead Kerry spent 3.5 out of 4 months trying to prove he was actually better on terrorism than Bush. He was "establishing his foreign policy credentials" (remember that). Yet, his poll numbers never changed on that issue from August to November. Guess who won all of the 6% of undecideds?

I have no doubt that this group is more conservative than the liberals. I have never disputed this. But what I STRONGLY DISAGREE with is how the DLC proscribes to win them over. I believe we should focus on the issues which we agree (and there are many). The DLC proscribes turning the Democrats into a Republican-lite party.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 11:49 AM
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5. I like your suggested direction better than the DLC's - I agree that the
Edited on Sun Oct-09-05 11:50 AM by papau
DLC is mis-reading of the situation.

:toast:

:-)
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 08:10 PM
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6. Clinton / Perot
it's a myth that Perot cost Bush the election, it's been discussed endlessly here at DU -

it's debunked here -


http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh062905.html

2nd article down.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-09-05 10:51 PM
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7. You're wrong
That's just Clinton spin. Even the DLC concede that in 1994 and beyond - 60 to 66% of Perot votes went to the Republicans. That's why the Democrats are stuck at 48 to 49%.

It's the numbers, stupid.

P.S. I'm not calling you stupid. It's a play on Carville's It's the economy, stupid.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:10 AM
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8. the article I linked to is very clear and cites numerous sources
you can reject that information as "spin" if you like.
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jackbourassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:11 PM
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12. It is spin
The article you linked to says that only 37% would have voted for Clinton which would have given him 48 to 49% of the total vote. Which is consistent with every vote since.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:41 AM
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9. I'd be a bit doubful about a president with no experience of office
however good a man, or experienced a film director, he is.

On the other hand, there's a small chance of his British equivalent doing something (and she has actually been a government minister):

Glenda Jackson: I'll stand for leadership against Blair

Tony Blair faces a direct challenge from one of his former ministers if he stays on as leader beyond the end of next year.

Glenda Jackson, MP for Hampstead and Highgate, has made it clear she would be prepared to stand as a stalking horse to force a leadership contest if the Prime Minister clings to power for another three years.He signalled in his conference speech that he wishes to stay on until 2008.

The former transport minister and Oscar-winning actress told The Independent on Sunday:"It was clear that he... is apparently ignorant of the need for a smooth transition (to a new leader)." She called on Mr Blair to set a date for his departure before mid-2006.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article318222.ece
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 09:57 AM
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10. I'm not a "Michael Moore" Democrat and I view the overuse of our military
with suspicion, not matter which party is in power. I support Dean's use of the military to stop humanitarian disasters, like Darfur, but do not support the use of our military for corporate imperialism, aka Iraq. But even in the case of Darfur, our military should be the last resort, not the first.

I noticed that the DLC has not done anything to address the military recruitment debacle. The main reason potential recruits are not joining the military is the disaster in Iraq. The DLC refuses to acknowledge that invading Iraq was a big mistake.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-10-05 01:01 PM
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11. Democrats haven't been winning lately
because they haven't exposed the GOP, but have instead, have chosen to turn against that which made them a majority party in the past. They let the right define them and now half the party uses the same definitions.
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