Reffering Iran to UNSC will result in $100.00 barrel oil

[Pharaoh]

http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=10479

The recent standoff over Tehran's NUCLEAR ACTIVITIES between Iran, the second-biggest producer in the 11-member OPEC, and the world's fourth-largest exporter on one hand and the West on the other hand could result in oil prices reaching unprecedented highs the coming few weeks, an editorial published on MPH magazine stated yesterday.

What the U.S. and its European allies shouldn’t ignore is Iran's strategic importance to the United States and the West in general and its role in the global energy equation.

:dem: :dem: :dem:

[rodeodance]

1. there was a good discussion about this on npr also.

[Pharaoh]

3. can you find me that program?

must be archieved..........

[Warren Stupidity]

2. And the $40 buck/bl windfall will go where? nt.

[VegasWolf]

4. to Cheney et al of course! nt

[rodeodance]

7. sorry, but it was on my way to work this morning--just know it

was npr.

[PerceptionManagement]

5. $100 is still cheaper than a radio-active Tel Aviv

[Warren Stupidity]

8. Right. Absolutely right.

Sure of course. Did you make a wrong turn this morning?

Welcome to DU.

[VegasWolf]

12. Yes, let's pay 7.00/gallon for another imaginary and over-sold Bush

threat. Iraq has WMD, let's get them. Iran will nuke Israel, better get Iran now. Right out of the PNAC playbook for a 3rd and long, which is exactly where we are after the Iraq fiasco.

[NickB79]

13. A few crude Iranian nukes vs. 200 modern Israeli nukes

Yeah, I'd think Iran is just itching to launch at Israel while staring down the barrel of multi-megatons worth of destructive power.

[Pavulon]

15. Wipe Israel of the map

is their stated intent. All nuclear weapons are crude. The core technology has not changed much since the mid 50's.

Israel has been labeled a nuclear power. However I would be surprised if they had useful numbers of thermonuclear weapons. Both sides would use 100 - 200 kt single stage weapons that may be yield enhanced by burning tritium. Not a true H device.

[NickB79]

21. And Iran would be wiped off the map as well

Even 50, 100-200 kiloton nukes would be enough to destroy every major city in Iran, and contaminate the area with radioactive fallout for decades.

Sad as it is to say, the MAD strategy between the US and the Soviet Union during the Cold War acted suprisingly well.

[Pavulon]

22. Hiroshima

was not abandoned. Nuclear weapons do not do this, that is a myth.

We detonated hundreds of weapons in nevada. There were thousands of nuclear weapon tests before the ban.

MAD worked because no one had a religious motive to kill the other.

[VegasWolf]

29. Religion is only the guise, as always, the motivation is oil wealth.

Religion has always been used by the highly wealthy and intelligent few to control and motivate the commoners.

[Warren Stupidity]

26. Be surprised.

By the late 1990s the U.S. Intelligence Community estimated that Israel possessed between 75-130 weapons, based on production estimates. The stockpile would certainly include warheads for mobile Jericho-1 and Jericho-2 missiles, as well as bombs for Israeli aircraft, and may include other tactical nuclear weapons of various types. Some published estimates even claimed that Israel might have as many as 400 nuclear weapons by the late 1990s. We believe these numbers are exaggerated.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/

Israel is believed to possess the largest and most sophisticated arsenal outside of the five declared nuclear powers. Israel has never admitted possessing nuclear weapons, but abundant information is available showing that the capability exists.

http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Israel/

And on and on and on. Google: Israel nuclear weapons

Cheers.

[Tempest]

24. Care to comment on the nukes Israel now possesses?

Ever hear of MAD?

The only country talking about using nukes is the U.S. Cheney said it just the other day.

[rustydad]

6. I have been saying this for weeks

If we and/or Israel attacks Iran they will likely reduce or eliminate oil exports which will throw the world into turmoil. Prices well over $100 a barrel, gas in the US at well over $5 a gallon. My guess is that Iran would cut in half it's exports so that if the price doubles their income remains unchanged. They can bring the mighty US to it's knees as well as Europe. The big winner? Russia. Bob

[cliss]

9. Bush had better realize 1 thing....

He is in way over his head with Iran. Unlike Iraq, Iran is not a weak country. This country has 68 million people. They are loyal, and they have a well-trained military. They are not stupid, like George Bush.

Most importantly: they've got assets. They're RICH. They've got the world's #1 proven reserves of natural gas. I've read articles where they speculate that IRAN and not SA has the world's largest supply of oil reserves.

2 other urgent issues that Bush better not forget:

1) If Bush decides to attack Iran, they will shut off the Strait of Hormuz. That will cut off our oil supply. And George, you know what happens then?

2) Last year, gas prices escalated steadily. They reached new highs. As the prices went up, Bush's approval rating went down, down, down. It was directly linked to the price of gas!

Got it, George?

[mom cat]

10. Just think what Exxon's profits could be then!

[SpiralHawk]

11. "Excellent!" - BushCo Oil Cronies & Krewe

As usual.

[EuroObserver]

14. Please be aware: THIS IS NOT THE REAL ALJAZEERAH SITE

http://www.aljazeera.com/ apparently has nothing to do with the real AlJazeerah site: http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage

[Pharaoh]

16. Wow I was not aware of that

the site at top is not at all connected to al-jezzera?

can you prove that or find out who is behind it?

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[MrPrax]

17. Good eye...

The disclaimer from THAT site:

Important note: Aljazeera Publishing and Aljazeera.com are not associated with the controversial Arabic Satellite Channel known as Jazeera Space Channel TV station whose website is Aljazeera.net.

Aljazeera Publishing disassociates itself from the views, opinions and broadcasts of Jazeera Space Channel TV station.
http://www.aljazeera.com/about.asp


I always look for the good housekeeping seal:

[Pharaoh]

19. thanks for the tips

it's what I love about Du,

if you get something wrong it will be quickly caught by someone........

that said, I think the article I posted still holds alot of water.........

[MrPrax]

23. Well...

The article isn't saying anything one can't assume...oil supply problems will translate into higher prices for end users,

hell last summer, Chevaz and the strike was being blamed for high prices...

I think it's secondary...the US invaded Iraq for the immediate purpose of having a direct oil supplies for a pre-planned regional/world war.

As the PNAC said (most of it, is power elite wet dreams), but the part about the window of opportunity for US hegemony makes sense.

This is the only window for the US...unless it acts, over the long term, the US is dead under the present status quo of an emerging multi-tiered world economy.

I assume among certain elite circles in the US it is a fact. This fact might also be the reason for the AWOL of the official Opposition; democrats.

[still_one]

25. maybe we should strive for energy independence

which doesn't involve trying to take over or invade countries

[EuroObserver]

27. Investing in new energy sources/technologies

would certainly seem intelligent.

[still_one]

28. it sure would

I assume many here are against nuclear energy, but that should also be considered. Europe and most of the world are utilizing that. In addition, wind, solar, hydroeclectric, mass transit, etc

[EuroObserver]

31. Nuclear energy, coal,

...as above all DEVELOPED, ADVANCED, CLEAN, and only transitional, technologies, may also be intelligent options to pursue, of course.

But let's not take our eye off the ball of long-term planetary (for the moment) civilized sustainability.

[Moderator]

30. Note from LBN Moderator

This isn't breaking news. This is a feature/news analysis article ( Other article )