Nine Eleven a Globalist Inside Job - Russian General Leonid Ivashov

[papau]

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Russian General: Nine Eleven a Globalist Inside Job

Kurt Nimmo, Another day in the empire



Sunday January 22nd 2006, 6:28 pm


It’s ironic General Leonid Ivashov, former Chief of Staff of the Russian armed forces, delivers the truth on globalism and this truth, unavailable in the corporate media of the "free world," is published in a newspaper in Las Tunas, Cuba. Ivashov tells us so-called international terrorism "is not something independent of world politics but simply an instrument, a means to install a unipolar world with a sole world headquarters, a pretext to erase national borders and to establish the rule of a new world elite" and "is a phenomenon that combines the use of terror by state and non-state political structures as a means to attain their political objectives through people’s intimidation, psychological and social destabilization, the elimination of resistance from power organizations and the creation of appropriate conditions for the manipulation of the countries’ policies and the behavior of people."

Ivashov hits the nail square on the head. "The organizers of attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order" because they "were not satisfied with the rhythm of the globalization process or its direction." As others have explained—most notably Andreas von Bulow, Bundestag member of a parliamentary commission which oversaw the three branches of the German secret service—only "secret services and their current chiefs" (or retired staff with "influence inside the state organizations") have the "ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. Generally, secret services create, finance and control extremist organizations. Without the support of secret services, these organizations cannot exist—let alone carry out operations of such magnitude inside countries so well protected." Thus the obvious patsy "Osama bin Laden and 'Al Qaeda’ cannot be the organizers or the performers of the September 11 attacks" because they "do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders" (or the military and intelligence experience and knowledge required). Instead, "a team of professionals had to be created and the Arab kamikazes are just extras to mask the operation."

According to General Ivashov, the covert operation nine eleven was effective because it turned "the people’s demands to a struggle of undefined goals against an invisible enemy … destroying basic international norms and changing concepts such as: aggression, state terror, dictatorship or movement of national liberation" and also depriving "peoples of their legitimate right to fight against aggressions and to reject the work of foreign intelligence services." <snip>

[elehhhhna]

1. If you wanted to take over the entire world, you'd obviosly start with

the US. We USED to be a very wealthy, influential nation.

[dusmcj]

2. beware of Russian goal of 'spheres of influence'

note that Russian nationalists (of which Zhirinovsky is the flatulent public face; he behaves like he grew up in a stall) which I would say include Putin, acting for his own political survival (the nationalist current is strong in Russia: harness it to consolidate power into a rule by personality - apparatchik as strongman) are aware of their nation's weakness and in the face of it want to counteract the power of both America and western Europe by proposing as a counter to globalization the very old notion of 'spheres of influence'. In which the de facto 'important' nations get sections of a globe carved up pretty much like an orange, only with some very crooked lines. For example, the Russian sphere spans Eurasia from Finland to Japan, leaving the south for China.

Bwa ha ha ha ha.

You get the picture. Just another flavor of the Old World Ordure, which the mediocre, the incompetent and the self-satisfied and self-aggrandizing use to maintain their illegitimate influence over normal people.

Not that the above might not be true, but it's always worth factoring in who the speaker is into the context of information.

I note by the way that Russian nationalism of a stripe only a few steps nearer the center than Zhirinovsky is moving from the demographic fringes into the mainstream, ostensibly supported by Putin and his apparatchiks to prevent a conflagration between those who long for a return to the order and power of Soviet times (a different flavor of nationalism), and that which offends them, anarchic capitalism and the corruption, exploitation and poverty it consists of.

[AntiFascist]

12. I had reservations as well when I read his article, but....

There is something strange about 9-11 though. Right after 9-11 I had read postings by neocon types that we had to fight the threat of socialism and communism taking over the Arab states.

Later I read that Al Qaeda started from the ideology of the Muslim Brotherhood which was a pro-fascist, anti-communist organization, and of course Osama originally helped the US fight against communism before, as we are told, he turned against the US.

You can even read about this on Free Republic:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1451209/posts

and here about the history of the Muslim Brotherhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood

So something just doesn't sit right with me about this, the neocons wanted to continue eradicating communism and Americanizing the world after the Cold War ended. Along come the remains of the Muslim Brotherhood providing them the opportunity to do just that in the Middle East, and it fits their ideology as well! Just more evidence that the War on Terror may be fake.

[Boojatta]

3. Since when do CIA efforts produce the results that the CIA aims for?

Ivashov hits the nail square on the head. "The organizers of attacks were the political and business circles interested in destabilizing the world order" (...) only "secret services and their current chiefs" (or retired staff with "influence inside the state organizations") have the "ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude.

Assuming you accept the claim that nobody but "secret services and their current chiefs" have the ability to conduct such an operation, how would you arrive at the conclusion that the organizers of the attacks included "business circles"?

For example, is Ivashov claiming that Mattel, maker of the Barbie doll, was responsible for the attacks on the World Trade Center? Which "business circles" is Ivashov talking about?

the worst single terrorist act of 1985 was a car-bombing in Beirut on March 8 that killed 80 people and wounded 256. "About 250 girls and women in flowing black chadors, pouring out of Friday prayers at the Imam Rida Mosque, took the brunt of the blast," Nora Boustany reported three years later: "At least 40 of them were killed and many more were maimed." The bomb also "burned babies in their beds, killed a bride buying her trousseau," and "blew away three children as they walked home from the mosque" as it "devastated the main street of the densely populated" West Beirut suburb. The target was the Shi'ite leader Sheikh Fadlallah, accused of complicity in terrorism, but he escaped. The attack was arranged by the CIA and its Saudi clients with the assistance of Lebanese intelligence and a British specialist, and specifically authorized by CIA director William Casey, according to Bob Woodward's account in his book on Casey and the CIA.

Source:
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199112--02.htm#n29

[Vidar]

4. Yes!!!!!!!

[orwell]

5. Remember...

...anything the contradicts the official narrative of 9/11 is not to be trusted.

Step one: impugn the source

Step two: decry conspiracy theorists

Step three: wave the bloody shirt

Step four: wave the flag

Step five: rinse and repeat

[katty]

6. well if the shoe fits - he's not the only one making these statements

[katty]

7. yup,the bush plan: "undefined goals against invisible enemy"

[yurbud]

8. same thing Brit cabinet member Meacher said

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1036571,00.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. Not the same - Meacher is 'LIHOP', Ivashov 'MIHOP'

Ivashov maintains that bin Laden and/or 'al Qaeda' was incapable of sending people to flight school and getting them to hijack planes on the same day. Why he thinks this, I can't tell yet - it's not that difficult if you have enough money to pay the flight school; any competent project planner in thousands of companies around the world could manage it. There's nothing 'military' about it at all. Meacher, on the other hand, just says that US authorities weren't following up the clues that an attack was imminent.

[yurbud]

10. LIHOP & MIHOP are functional equivalent for effect on us.

and their could be varying degrees of "making it happen."

Could al Qaeda be about 99% fiction? Yes.

Or the Bushies could have known exactly what provocation would push them over the edge and greased the tracks. The result would the same as if Mohammed Atta was actually a Saudi intelligence officer and Prince Bandar put together the group of hijackers or if they were all Mossad agents.

[mirandapriestly]

11. The Russians have their own "inside job"

In Post Soviet Russia there was an apartment building filled with working class people in Moscow which was bombed then blamed on the Chechens. I saw a documentary called "Disbelief" on the Sundance channel which raised the possibility that the Russian secret service & putin himself was behind this and other bombings and blamed it on the Chechens "to heighten national fear and hysteria and justify Russia's subsequent military attack on the breakaway republic?" - sound familiar?
There were a number of silmilar bombings blamed on Chechens, widely believed to be the Secret Service.
http://www.disbelief-film.com/indexDE.htm

I believe I read that Putin was the first to call Bush after 9-11 -was it a condolence call or a congratulation call? ;