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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 07:57 PM
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Battle Plans for Iran
cont'd: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11743.htm


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The administration has no hope of securing the votes needed for sanctions or punitive action. The trip to the Security Council is purely a ploy to provide the cover of international legitimacy to another act of unprovoked aggression. The case has gone as far as it will go excluding the requisite “touched up” satellite photos and bogus allegations of unreliable dissidents.

We should now be focused on how Washington intends to carry out its war plans, since war appears to be inevitable.

Those who doubt that the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld team will attack Iran, while so conspicuously overextended in Iraq, are ignoring the subtleties of the administration’s Middle East strategy.

Bush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth. Ultimately, Washington will aim to replace the Mullahs with American-friendly clients who can police their own people and fabricate the appearance of representative government. But, that will have to wait. For now, the administration must prevent the incipient Iran bourse (oil-exchange) from opening in March and precipitating a global sell-off of the debt-ridden dollar. There have many fine articles written about the proposed “euro-based” bourse and the devastating effects it will have on the greenback. The best of these are “Petrodollar Warfare: Oil, Iraq and the Future of the Dollar” by William R. Clark, and “The Proposed Oil Bourse” by Krassimir Petrov, Ph.D.

The bottom line on the bourse is this; the dollar is underwritten by a national debt that now exceeds $8 trillion dollars and trade deficits that surpass $600 billion per year. That means that the greenback is the greatest swindle in the history of mankind. It’s utterly worthless. The only thing that keeps the dollar afloat is that oil is traded exclusively in greenbacks rather than some other currency. If Iran is able to smash that monopoly by trading in petro-euros then the world’s central banks will dump the greenback overnight, sending markets crashing and the US economy into a downward spiral.

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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:03 PM
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1. Hah ! was discussing this bout 7 or 8 months ago in here .......
"Bush has no intention of occupying Iran. Rather, the goal is to destroy major weapons-sites, destabilize the regime, and occupy a sliver of land on the Iraqi border that contains 90% of Iran’s oil wealth." -snip-

In a couple of threads back then, we had maps and everything of the oil corridors right across the border from Iraq. Maybe they were reading DU, or it was just that obvious. We shall see. This war shit sucks, gawd I can't stand these Neo-con PNAC criminals! Peace. :)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:08 PM
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2. they are certifiably insane and taking us with them!
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:18 PM
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3. They are definitely certifiably insane ......
but if we can stay one step ahead of um ..... maybe we can do something about them taking us with um. :shrug: At the moment I have no idea what that is, but my unwillingness to give up, ever! And my faith. Hang in there, we'll work on it. Peace and :hug:
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 08:21 PM
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4. yes,I will never give up-this has been a very dark week...hard
to keep my perspective.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 09:05 PM
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5. "Breath, life's a gift." ............ :)
That's my favorite thing to say now-a-days. I knew looking at the 'worlds schedule' this week would be quite a roller coaster ride too. Tried to approach it like a Rock, then I went off on a few people after last nights SOTU speech ..... sigh.... and had to back away today and re-introspect on things. "Breath, life's a gift" I told my own self, and we are not going to change everyones mind on everything. But we have to try 'civilly' I tell myself again ...... in action and in word. Why? Because there are good people in this world, and they are worth fighting for. Because in all nations and peoples of this world 'kids' are brought into it innocent, uncorrupted and a blessing to us all. For them, I will never give up. So we take it one day at a time, and learn to fight with a smile on our face like a little child, and .... again try not to take this gift of life for granted. Peace again, and always. :)
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:51 PM
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8. deep breathing
Yes, agree...thank you :)

>Because there are good people in this world, and they are worth fighting for
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-01-06 10:44 PM
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6. An attack on Iran will have serious repercussions to the West
I am inclined to let Bush meet his Waterloo, and let this rotten and corrupt system collapse under its own weight.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:52 PM
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9. Indeed, let the great Kali work them over
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 10:55 PM
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11. Two Maps ... Khuzestian ... 'Southwest Iran' ...... Iraqi Border.




March 20th the Iranian Oil Bourse is scheduled to open. And even though Iran has pulled its currency out of European Banks (to prevent these assets from being frozen by any possible sanctions) .... I still haven't heard any plan on Iran delaying this move (The Bourse). I thought they might be forced into delaying the bourse, but nothings popped up yet? Anyway the point of the maps, .... is that when anyone says 'with what troops will the U.S. invade Iran with seeing it's much larger than Iraq?' Well you see by the layout and this story explains ... the oil corridors are concentrated in a much smaller part of Iran than people realize. The Bush cronies really don't care if Iraq goes to hell, why should they care about Iran? .... Peace. Fight the powers that be on this. Peace.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 01:05 AM
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7. Again, as much as they lust for Iran.....
they will not do it. The main reason that Bush would attack Iran is in fact not the issue of Iran having oil. It certainly is not the issue of a nuclear threat. That's just a cover for something else.

Some articles point out that Iran is planning to unveil an Iranian Euro-dollar bourse. This will supposedly be the death knell for the Goodl Ole Greenback. People feel that the US will attack Iran rather than have this happen. Here are a couple of reasons why it won't get pushed to an attack:

1) Iran currently holds about$50 billion in U.S. currency. Last week, the Iranians threatened to pull their money out of European banks. I don't know if they held good on their threat. But consider that if Iran converts to Euro-petros, they could stand to lose that money (on the assuption that the dollar will fall, which I fully believe it will). That's an awful lot of money to lose, so they need to be cautious.

2) The Europeans will do everything they can to stop them. They are completely vested in the dollar (particularly England), and they simply cannot stand by and let this happen. Notice, this week? The hostility towards Iran. Merkel is being unusually hostile.

3) The U.S. will pressure other countries like crazy to not let this happen. This is one GIANT CASINO, and the U.S. is the croupier. Everybody plays by our rules. If one falls, everybody falls. This is just like the game of Prisoner's Dilemma.

4) IRAN holds all the cards. It simply cannot lose in this world-class game of chess. I think they know this, too. They can cut us off: we're finished. They can block the Strait of Hormuz: we're finished. They can just sit on their oil. Whatever happens, they've got time on their side. The oil will still be there!

As the world's economy grinds to a screeching halt. THEY, my friends, are holding 4 aces.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-02-06 08:52 PM
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10. I pray, meditate, et al you are right
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:40 AM
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12. A Year Ago I Thought They Would Do It. I Now Have My Doubts
- I have seen no credible reports of a US buildup/redeployment.

- Our ground forces are treading water fighting an insurgency among the 5 Mil. Sunni's. An attack on Iran would throw the detente with the Shiite into question (I heard on Hartman the other day that the new Iraq Govt. has signed a mutual defense pact with Iran).

- Our air and naval forces are not really being used. But due to the reasons stated above, they cannot be used, without placing the ground forces in grave danger.

- Plus all the reasons you state.

As you say, they are holding 4 aces. This may explain their inexplicable belligerent tone considering they have a hostile army on their border.

OTOH, what is with the integrated propaganda effort on the usual outlets (Faux, CNN, Wash Times, OxyRush, etc.). Prole feed, or advance work for a modern day 'Gulf of Tonkin'?
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:31 PM
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14. Exactly.
We aren't going to inavade Iran anytime soon.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-03-06 02:24 PM
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13. "world’s central banks will dump the greenback overnight" ....
no they won't, they will lost their shirts too ... this will happen slowly (remember the saying, not a bang, but a whimper) ... also, customers have to have faith in the fairness of Iran's bourse, so it won't happen immediately (I'm sure Iran will strong-arm some of the smaller Asian nations to do it at first.)

I agree with the general tone of what will happen, just that it will happen slower
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