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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:26 PM
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Bush appeal wanes for some Republican faithful
Bush appeal wanes for some Republican faithful
26 Feb 2006 15:14:46 GMT

Source: Reuters

By Stuart Grudgings

ALEXANDRIA, La., Feb 26 (Reuters) - Robert Dukes, a Baptist preacher who calls New Orleans "sin city" and believes gay rights are the biggest threat to America, is questioning his faith in President George W. Bush.

He sees Bush as having done little to halt moral decline, and fears the administration has mortgaged America's future to China. The controversial decision to allow a Dubai firm to operate some U.S. ports has raised further doubts in his mind about the man he supported in the past two elections.

"We ought to be able to run our own ports," said Dukes, a muscular 45-year-old whose full-time job is as a police trainer in the central Louisiana city of Alexandria. "Right now, if we had an election, I don't know what in the world I'd do."
(snip/...)

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N23530420.htm

(I think WE know what he'd do.)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:31 PM
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1. I hope he loses his job
as the city that he works for loses federal funding for police training, and he and his family can live on the stipend or whatever he can steal from his congregation.

I have nothing but contempt for these blind, stupid, easily-led morons that brought this disaster to our nation. They have brought suffering into the world because they are bigots, homophobes, and ignorant of the world.

Fool.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:43 PM
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2. It only last through Nov 06 elections
then they will be back worshiping * unless they start to worship who the republicans will install in our White House next.

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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:46 PM
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3. It's hard to get excited by a change in someone who thinks...
gay rights are the biggest threat to America. Obviously, Bush simply isn't enough of a kook for him.
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castiron Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 12:51 PM
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4. Yes, he will transfer his rabid, bigoted faith to another Republican.
Probably a far more Neanderthalish one at that. To even entertain the notion that these people will vote Democrat is to be blindly optimistic.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:04 PM
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6. Brownback in 08 (ohno!)
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:00 PM
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5. Human clowns like this will never vote anything other than Republican.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:12 PM
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7. The only real hope is they will be so pissed they
will not go out to vote on the 06/08 elections :)
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:43 PM
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19. My sentiments exactly n/t
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demosincebirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:22 PM
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8. He'd vote for another republcan.
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wellst0nev0ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:22 PM
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9. He Prolly Voted For David Duke 15 Years Ago
no wonder New Orleans is what it is today.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:30 PM
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10. Oh, wonderful. A homophobic police trainer who moonlights as a..
preacher. In Alexandria, LA, no less.

Now that is just twisted all the way around.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:20 PM
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16. We need to hit these guys head on.
*uck the centrist idea.

These people are the minority. It's time we exposed them and
came out strong for truth, transparency in gov't and tolerance.

We will lose elections forever if we continue to try and appease these assholes.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:36 PM
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18. *uck the centrist idea...
"The only thing in the middle of the road is dead armadillos"- Jim Hightower

Left jabs will get you points but the right hook is what puts them on their asses.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:44 PM
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11. "believes gay rights are the biggest threat to America"
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 01:51 PM by Lochloosa
Got to watch out for those gays.

I heard they have designer bomb belts.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:47 PM
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12. All that keeps him afloat is TAX CUTS. 1 lie about THAT sunk Poppy
But Shrub can lie about WAR, get hundreds of thousands KILLED, be an incompetent boob about slow-moving hurricanes and 9-11------and none of THESE matter.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:05 PM
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14. tax cuts allow rich folks to invest in Carlyle Group n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:17 PM
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15. Yet, leave us not forget that a CARTER staffer founded Carlyle
RUBENSTEIN.
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AlamoDemoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:34 PM
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17. hmmm! I did not know that...thanks
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:41 PM
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39. Oh, yes, vipers in CARTER's nest: Tweety, Pat CADDELL & RUBENSTEIN
The first item is the story how Shrub was first given a job for nothing contributed then fired from Carlyle.

*******QUOTE*******

http://www.prorev.com/bushcarlyle.htm

We put him on the board and spent three years. Came to all the meetings. Told a lot of jokes. Not that many clean ones. And after a while I kind of said to him, after about three years - you know, I'm not sure this is really for you. Maybe you should do something else. Because I don't think you're adding that much value to the board. You don't know that much about the company.

He said, well I think I'm getting out of this business anyway. And I don't really like it that much. So I'm probably going to resign from the board.

And I said, thanks - didn't think I'd ever see him again. His name is George W. Bush. He became President of the United States. So you know if you said to me, name 25 million people who would maybe be President of the United States, he wouldn't have been in that category. So you never know. Anyway, I haven't been invited to the White House for any things.

http://www.thecarlylegroup.com/eng/team/l5-team446.html

David M. Rubenstein
Founder
Washington, DC



David M. Rubenstein is a Co-Founder and Managing Director of The Carlyle Group, one of the world’s largest private equity firms. Mr. Rubenstein co-founded the firm in 1987. Since then, Carlyle has grown into a firm managing more than $35 billion from 24 offices around the world.

Mr. Rubenstein, a native of Baltimore, is a 1970 magna cum laude graduate of Duke where he was elected Phi Beta Kappa. Following Duke, Mr. Rubenstein graduated in 1973 from The University of Chicago Law School where he was an editor of the Law Review.

From 1973-75, Mr. Rubenstein practiced law in New York with Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison. From 1975-76 he served as Chief Counsel to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Constitutional Amendments. From 1977-1981, during the Carter Administration, Mr. Rubenstein was Deputy Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy. After his White House service and before co-founding Carlyle, Mr. Rubenstein practiced law in Washington with Shaw, Pittman, Potts & Trowbridge (now Pillsbury, Winthrop, Shaw Pittman). ....

********UNQUOTE*******
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Piscis Austrinus Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 01:53 PM
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13. Funny how anti-gay thumpers cite homosexuality as cause for decline
and forget that the oppression of the poor and the fatherless pissed God off a lot more.

The fact that this guy even sees dimly that he's made his bed in a den of vipers is actually a positive sign. Maybe, just maybe, he'll start making a habit of self-examination.

Peace
PsA

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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 02:44 PM
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20. there is always someone to blame
one's misfortune on...easier that than to actually exam one's own actions.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:27 PM
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21. kick
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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22. Some Republicans question faith in Bush
Edited on Sun Feb-26-06 03:21 PM by IsItJustMe
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060226/ts_nm/usa_politics_louisiana_dc

Interesting article about how various Rebulican supporters are having serious questions with regards to Bush.

Can the tide be turning?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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23. If all this is what it takes to get them to question . . .
what's it gonna take to actually make them change their mind?

:nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke::nuke:?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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24. The link has conveniently been removed...
:tinfoilhat: Did Cheney threaten to bust a cap in someone at Yahoo's ass? :think:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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27. It works for me n/t
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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29. OK, now it's working!!!
I was just reading the line about the guy who thinks gay rights is the biggest threat to the U.S. As much as I like the fact that he's doubting Bush, what the hell is wrong with these people?

:shrug:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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33. Exactly, and don't think he won't vote for someone like Frist or Allen
So he dislikes Bush now. He's not up for re-election - so what?

The biggest mistake the left has made is in letting other Republicans off the hook and focusing blame solely on Bush. We need to inextricably tie Frist, Allen, EVERY current GOPer to Bush and his failed, immoral policies.
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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25. not in my house!
the more embattled * gets, the more LOYAL my husb. gets! no. matter. what.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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32. Not mine
We are separated and he is now living in a Red State. I don't know if it is the fact of actually LIVING in this Red State, but whenever I send him emails on what this Administration is doing, he writes back furious with a "I didn't know that. Expletive deleted." Both our daughters send him emails too, including our gay daughter.

Maybe there is hope. Or maybe you can take a Republican out of a BLUE State, but you cannot take a Blue State out of a Republican? On many levels, I hope this is true.
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FooFootheSnoo Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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36. not in my house either
my husband gets more loyal too. I hope he's seeing the light, but just not wanting to admit he was wrong, but I don't know. We can't have the news on when we are both in the same room. He does kind of like Colbert, maybe there's hope.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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26. No - those idiots would support any non-Bush Republican
The article was actually pretty decent in that it got jabs in at the entire party's malfeasence over Hurricane Katrina and its ties to crony lobbyists, but the morons it quotes in that article would never DREAM of voting for an "immoral" Dem. :puke:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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28. Dumb, blind faith is a stubborn commodity
and I doubt if many of those true believers at his Potemkin town meetings with their arms in the air are anywhere near ready to turn on their little tin Jesus.

Remember what it took for Europe to turn on Mussolini, and Hitler had support until the very end.

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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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30. FAITH? They weren't supposed to have Faith in him to begin with
NO president deserves faith or trust; we should always regard our leaders with skepticism and a clear, critical analysis -- regardless of what they preach. This "cult of personality" crap has to stop.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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31. Faith? I thought they might love him more than they love God
They sure act like they do.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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34. these people are repulsive
a psychotic 'police trainer' who thinks gay rights are the greatest danger facing america!.....the guy's gay, you can bet bush's left nut, and that a closet queen trains 'police' says everything needed about georgebushamerica.....yech
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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35. Its a thin line between love and hate
Some republicans, as we know, have loved Bushie like he was god. But there may, hopefully soon, that love will turn to hate. It's my experience they will hate with the same passion as they loved.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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37. Duh!!!
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Dan Donating Member (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:28 PM
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38. no, the tide is not turning....
what is happening is the 2006 elections...

they still love him and don't give a damn about the American people, BUT NOW some are now just afraid for their political lives.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:46 PM
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40. In addition, a surprising number of Progressives are disillusioned with
the current crop of DINOs and looking to 3rd Party candidates or newcomers like Hackett who keep getting kicked in the teeth.
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Geo55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:52 PM
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42. Yes.....someone else.....a fond dream
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-26-06 04:47 PM
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41. bwahahahaha!
live with it.
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