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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:55 PM
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Rove's Unexplained Personal Wealth
Rove's Unexplained Personal Wealth Hotlist
by citizendc at DKos
Tue May 02, 2006

Have you ever wondered how a man who owns a $1,500,000 house in DC, a $1,000,000+ house in Florida and a $48,000 cottage in Texas manages to survive on $161,000 a year federal salary? It's odd.

Would it raise questions that same man had sold a property to a shell company controlled by his former business partners and that man made between $250,000 and $750,000 profit?

Maybe it would raise further questions if those former business partners that bought the property were raking in millions of political dollars from the Bush-Cheney presidential campaign, the RNC and multiple other Republican candidates? Would that just be a coincidence? Well, those are a string of coincidences that happened to Karl Rove.

What you first must know is that Karl used to run a successful fundraising, mailing list sales and political services company called Karl Rove & Co. Rove did work for many candidates, national, state and local, ranging from Congress to various state supreme court candidates. When George Bush tapped Rove in 1999 to work on the Presidential, Bush wanted his undivided attention, and reportedly required Rove to sell his company, reportedly at a financial loss to Rove. Keep in mind, if Bush were to win, Karl Rove & Co would be in for some big dollars:


The relationships get pretty incestuous, as the money has moved first from the Bush campaign to what had been Karl Rove & Co., the direct-mail and consulting service owned by Rove. Rove has worked as a political adviser to Bush for years, and in the spring his boss asked him to sell his profitable business if he wanted to continue working on the presidential campaign.

Rove wasn't too eager to sell his company, at least according to his sister, who spoke to Dallas Observer reporter Miriam Rozen for a profile of Rove in May of this year. Rove's sister suggested that her brother's hasty sale of his business might have cost him some money. But Rove told Michael Holmes of the Associated Press he was selling because Bush "didn't want my focus diluted."


Texas Observer Article on Rove


In fact, during Bush's re-election run for governor, Karl Rove & Co (the company) was receiving nearly 1/5 of the re-election campaign's budget:

Since Bush payments to Rove's company constituted nearly one-fifth of his entire $14 million (governor's re-elect) campaign budget in the recent election, it's understandable that both men wanted to avoid any of the obvious "conflict of interest" questions that might be forthcoming from future big bucks contributors. Any possible concern they have could be based on what may be a trend in politics: the man running for office gets the bucks and passes on the cash to companies owned by members of the candidate's campaign team.

Bushwatch-Guru Gives Up Direct Mail Outfit

Austin Chonicle - the Man Behind the Bush


So, Karl is about to sell a company that could make him a mint after George W. Bush gets re-elected. Eager to miss out on all that cash, he does so. Is this logical? Not in my book. Who does he sell Karl Rove & Co to? He sells the company Todd Olsen, a registered lobbyist and someone who works for Rove and a guy named Ted Delisi. But what's unusual about this? Olsen is a political neophyte, with no experience other than with Rove. And Todd's lobbying clients net him only a cut of $60,000 a year. Is this the picture of a guy who can afford to buy and run such a profitable company? Doesn't seem that way to me. Delisi was no better - he was on the State of Texas payroll with Attorney General John Cornyn while also doing political consulting:

According to the November 5, 1999, Austin Chronicle, "Ted Delisi and Todd Olsen, a registered lobbyist, are fairly new to the political consulting game. In March, the two bought the political consulting portion of Karl Rove & Company, the consulting firm formerly owned by Karl Rove, the chief political strategist in George W. Bush's presidential campaign. Both are former employees of Rove. According to filings at the Texas Ethics Commission, Olsen lobbies for two clients, the Clean Power Campaign and the Texas Association of Paging Services. The combined income from those two clients is less than $60,000.

"However, Olsen and Delisi bought what appears to be a profitable business from Rove, who has worked as a political adviser to most of the statewide officials now in office. Mailing list services are used not only by politicians but by for-profit and nonprofit groups who are eager to have the names and addresses of people who are known for charitable giving. And Rove's lists were among the most sought-after in the direct mail business. As a direct mail guru, Rove raised tens of millions of dollars for Republican politicians in Texas and elsewhere. With such clients as U.S. Senators Phil Gramm, Kay Bailey Hutchison, and Kit Bond of Missouri, Rove could easily have continued operating his consulting business, and he apparently planned to do so. But Bush wanted all of Rove's attention. In March, Rove told Michael Holmes of the Associated Press that he was selling his business to Olsen and Delisi because Bush wanted him to do so. Rove said Bush asked him to sell because the candidate didn't 'want my focus diluted.



and

"While Delisi's work for the Bush campaign may not violate state ethics laws or Cornyn's policy, the amount of money involved in his consulting business is substantial enough to raise eyebrows.

Sourcewatch on Olsen and Delisi



Flash Forward - The Houses and Questionable Money

Karl and his wife Darby used to own a Bed and Breakfast in Ingram, TX called the River Oaks Lodge. In 2003, Dan Froomkin reported that Rove sold the B&B for somewhere between $250,000 and $750,000 profit (property currently assessed at $249,000) according to Rove's SF-278 financial disclosure statement filed with the US Office of Government Ethics, the office that handles ethics filings for the White House. (Since Rove is a senior appointed official, he must, by law, make these filings to show he has no conflicts of interest.)

The big news: Senior Adviser Karl Rove sold his bed and breakfast business, the River Oaks Lodge Bed and Breakfast in Ingram, Tex., for somewhere between $500,000 and a million dollars.

Froomkin - Bush's Unsupported Assertion



Well, the River Oaks Lodge in Kerr County, at 1120 Hwy 39 is today worth $221,069 market value. In 2003, it would have been worth $202,927 market value. See the assessment here: TXCountyData.com (Kerr County). It is owned by Estadio Partners LLC.

Karl, why did you receive between $500,000 and $1,000,000 for a property that was only worth, market value, $202,927?

~snip~

So if you're Karl Rove and you've helped George W. Bush win the Presidency with an empire you built, will you settle for the $161,000 annual government salary? Or will you be pissed off that the company that you built is now raking in the dough now that George Bush is in office and Republicans are in power?

That's the question. Karl, according to US Government Ethics, should have no financial connection or interest in Olsen-Delisi, a company that receives vast sums of political money. Political money that, arguably, Karl Rove as key political strategist at the White House may have a hand in directing. Surely you might want some kickbacks from the empire that you're built while you're serving time in the government sector, eh, Karl?

~snip~

http://www.dailykos.com/hotlist/add/2006/5/2/10177/11404/displaystory//

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:57 PM
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1. Wow wow wow. I would love for someone to bust this lil scandal
wide open!:wow:
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:58 PM
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2. Does Rove have to do one of those financial disclosure forms?
Edited on Tue May-02-06 04:06 PM by RobertSeattle
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:00 PM
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3. You know pigs will step all over each other to get to the trough.
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Hoping4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:03 PM
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4. I has assumed he came from a family with money.
Very illuminatinating post. Recommended.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:11 PM
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5. This guy is as big a crook as they get
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:12 PM
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6. Not defending the monstrous profit....
I'm assuming that Rove didn't just sell the property, but he sold the B&B business as well (records, clients, mailing lists, etc). I can see how that might increase the selling price to an amount much more than the assessed value of the house/land.

If he was keeping the B&B business - just moving it down the road to a different property, say - then perhaps the sale wouldn't have been so high.

I'm not a real estate agent. I'm not a business professional. I'm just guessing. :shrug:

Rove does appear to be unexplainably wealthy.
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AndrewJacksonFaction Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:42 PM
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11. My thoughts as well.
EBITA x 3 would determine the remainder of the money. Spreadsheets would tell us the rest of the tale.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 04:59 PM
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7. That's al ot of money for licking stamps
And stuffing envelopes.

I love to see what the "second set" of accounting books look like.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 05:42 PM
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8. By what creative stretch of ingenuity might we...
...be able to connect Karl's inexplicably large accumulation of personal wealth to Plamegate? Thinking backwards, it doesn't take much imagination to connect Plamegate to the deceptions used to lead us into launching our illegal invasion of Iraq. Going still further back, how hard would it be to connect these pre-invasion deceptions to specific personalities/characters that Karl may have some past or present personal financial tie to? If it can be established that any of Karl's former business partners had a clear financial interest in Bush becoming President, and has since profited handsomely from it, does this not at least establish, however tenuously, an indirect connection between Plamegate, our march to war, and Karl's personal fortune?

Could this be part of the reason Karl is trying so desperately hard not to be indicted? This may be far fetched to posit such a connection, I wonder though.




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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:07 PM
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9. that's slimer than Watergate
and it's tied to Dubya
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:03 PM
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10. bribes
yup
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tired of the right Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:53 PM
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12. Re: Rove's wealth
Behind every great fortune is a crime. And I would suspect him greatly.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:41 PM
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13. Sherman Adams...
A blast from the past. Ike's top advisor was caught taking the doe ray me on the side. Big scandal.
Bye bye Sherman.

This is one hell of a post.

Recommended.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:56 PM
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14. Close your eyes PETA Members...
We could have the makings of a pig roast on our hands!

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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:42 AM
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15. Golly, I'm really surprised. He seems so honest.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:45 AM
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16. Duke Cunninham just went to jail for the same practice (Duke Stir)
Edited on Wed May-03-06 12:46 AM by Julius Civitatus
among many other corrupt "transfers" of cash. What Rove did with the sale of his bed & breakfast is called MONEY LAUNDERING.

Mr. Duke-Stir was an expert at this practice of money laundering through the legit sale of a real state or luxury property:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/16/AR2005061601313.html

http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2005/06/28/news/top_stories/62705202602.txt

http://www.warprofiteers.com/article.php?id=12438
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 06:54 AM
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17. "get pretty incestuous"
Now there's a delicious understatement.
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kiteinthewind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:49 AM
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18. Excellent Post!!
:kick:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 08:43 AM
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19. He was a toadie for Tobacco lobby. As late as the 2000 campaign. nt
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:02 AM
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20. direct ties to Karl Rove and Sonny Purdue GA's Governor
in 2002 election.

let's face it folks.. Rove architected more than the stamp licking, direct mail organization for GOP officials.
He invented the entire election fraud machine which is why he's been put back on that, the GOP likes or hates Roves
for all is criminal activity but trust me on this one, they depend on him to win a single seat in congress/state
races cause he's a mastermind at political criminal election activity having masterminded the Brooks Brother Revolt,
and various other ways to steal our votes from us...

if americans are smart,they'd put this guy in jail long before the 2006 elections and then marvel at all the democrats flooding back into congress (assuming we get rid of the voting machines which is unlikely)....

it's all about election rigging folks.. his $$$ is directly tied to getting people into office....
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Oak2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-05-06 03:29 AM
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25. He didn't invent the fraud machine, he inherited it
Edited on Fri May-05-06 03:31 AM by Oak2004
The Republican fraud machine has its roots in the College Republicans.

The College Republicans, in my days as a member, had a powerful dirty tricks culture. And I know that it was not new when I ran into it. It had been an entrenched part of CR culture for a while when I had my sip or two at the fountain of fraud.

My guess is that it began with young people involved in the Goldwater campaign. That campaign brought together ideology and adolescence. True believers tend to think that their cause is so right that, when it comes to advancing the cause, anything goes. Teens and many young adults are attracted to pranksterism.

I know I found the dirty tricks mentality in the CRs was strongest among those furthest to the right, though even members on the left in our chapter used dirty tricks. One of our furthest to the left chapter members, in fact, had to drop out of his race for student body president because he got caught at a call-in-and-jam-the-phone-lines stunt much like what happened recently on a bigger stage in NH.

This culture was encouraged by the national leadership. They didn't encourage it overtly, since advocating what often amounts to criminal activity is political suicide. But it was in the air, and sometimes it was alluded to in ways we all understood.

Rove is a product of the CR dirty tricks culture. I've never met Rove (to the best of my knowledge), but I was at one point in my life moving in similar circles and would have been only a handshake away from him. So I think I understand a bit about what makes him tick. I think Rove, in many ways, hasn't really grown up. If you look at his bio in light of what I've said about CR culture, you will realize that he has never entirely left that adolescent culture. He's never had the distance that would allow him to reflect on dirty tricks, politics, ethics, and personal maturity. He's a bald eighteen year old in a business suit, getting a rush and gloating with glee every time he succeeds at putting something over "on the Democrats".

I put Democrats in scare quotes because this kind of conduct assaults and batters democracy and the American voter, not the opposition. But that kind of insight, that political dirty tricks subvert America, is the kind of insight that he's never had the opportunity to form.

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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:07 AM
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21. All that wealth & power will be put in serious jeopardy after the May 9th
indictment.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:03 PM
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22. It's finally happened.
My scrapbook of scandals will require a book bindery.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 02:14 PM
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23. Mailing list, schmailing list!
KKKarl owns a billion dollar blackmailing list.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 02:44 PM
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24. US Treasury empty, a $1 trillion for the war, it has to be going somewhere
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