Iran and the Democrats: Does it feel safe?

[Behind the Aegis]

At the AJC annual convention today, I heard a couple of people talk about the issue of the Iranian nuclear program and most of it was fairly reassuring. Representatives from both Left and Right promised the audience that the threat will not be ignored. Not by a Republican administration - as was emphasized by Senator Gordon Smith of Oregon - nor by a Democratic one, as Senator Barack Obama of Illinois and Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean promised in terms not at all different from those used by Bush, Cheney and Rice.

And Dean - wearing the badge of a leftist Democrat - was actually the one going into details in regard to Iran - Making the more forceful argument. The crowed demanded it from him in the short session of questions and answers. But even before that it was clear that he was coming with a decision that?s been made in advance: He was not going to leave any room for doubt or interpretation on this issue.

And why was this necessary- Because as much as the Jewish community support the Democrats more than it supports Republicans generally speaking (as was proved by the amount of applause Dean got) - it is also clear that the question of Iran still hangs over the Democratic party as one on which the amount of trust they get from Jews in America is not as large as they get on other issues.

And this is interesting, because if you take the Democrats by their words, one can argue that on the Iranian issue they have been even more forceful than the Republicans. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Senator Evan Bye, and many others were criticizing the administration from the right on Iran, claiming it was not acting fast enough as to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

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[cpousnret]

1. i`ll probably be called an anti-semite

but with all due respect i don`t care about israel,nor iran,iraq,palestine etc.i don`t check to see if a person is black,white,yellow,red,brown,christian,evil-gelical,or jew i really don`t care,but what i do know is people should take care of ther own business instead of bringing their shit to the u.s.as self serving as it may sound and as ego-tistical as it sounds i don` care.its time to take care of the people of the u.s.quit worrying about people who have dual citizenship,why hell i`ve never heard of a country allowing dual citizenship,pick a country and be a citizen,stand up for that country and leave the u.s. alone.this is exactly our problem,we worry too fucking much about what is going on somewhere else rather then the good old usa,well it was good until this fucking wack job got ahold of it.avoid entangling alliances,hell avoid everyone and mind our own business,build a strong defense and warn anyone that should some country threaten our space again they will be fucked up.iraqis take care of your country,israel take care of your country(mosaad knew ahead of time)iran take care of your country,afghanistan take care of your country.saudis quit running to france to fuck little boys.i`m sick of all this godamn news y`all go somewhere and solve your own fucking problems,so we can solve ours.

[Behind the Aegis]

2. not anti-Semitic...just ethnocentric!

I won't rip apart your polluted stream of thought, but I will comment on this: "...why hell i`ve never heard of a country allowing dual citizenship,..." I must say, you are woefully uneducated! There are MANY countries that allow dual citizenship.

I have to disagree with your "pull into the tortoise shell" approach to the world. The "world's problems" are OUR problems!

[cpousnret]

4. a country should not allow dual

citizenship,ethno- centric,excuse me i`m centric,i don`t care about any of this,them,these,those,i care what happens to all americans,we would not have the problems that we have if we would quit running around the world solving others problems,how about solving our own problems mr. smart person.take care of your own family before doing others.hell bring the troops home and secure the border,introduce health ins. for everyone,go to bio-fuels,lets not leave a child behind,who cares who one marrys or who one lives with,correct the drug corporations from ripping citizens off.ex:the other day i was filling an rx and an elderly lady was getting her drugs for the month,her total was 644.00,my script was 9.00 dollars,you see what you don`t understand is that we have problems and we will never solve them unless we address them and we can`t because we are being the policemen of the world.so mr. smarty you know it all mr. phi beta kappa it does not take a degrtee to understand that each country takes care of there own problems,and while i`m not as smart i you i was still able to do 25 years in the navy get 2 degrees and have 3 retirements with a portfolio worth about 750,000 and a monthly income of 7000.00 a month.other wise peace to you

[cpousnret]

6. but for the safety of the american people

against the dangers from foreign force depends not only on their forebearing to give just causes of war to other nations but also on their placing and continuing themselves in such a situation as not to invite hostility or insult,for it need not be observed that there are pretended as well as just causes of war.federalist paper#4,john jay,in other words don`t fake a war and mind our own godamn business.peace

[ixion]

3. RE: 'Iranian Issue' and 'Iranian Threat'

The only viable threats taking place right now are coming from the US and Israel.

Iran is in compliance with the IAEA.

There is no 'Iranian Threat', or at least no more so than there has been for the last 50 years, only the threats made the US and Israel, the premise on which those threats are lain being dubious, at best, if not sinister, IMO.

[cpousnret]

5. gee,someone intelligent