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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:30 PM
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Richard Land (SoBapt leader) As Heir to Torquemada
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Wednesday, July 12, 2006
Richard Land As Heir to Torquemada

Richard Land, already notorious for justifying President Bush's pre-emptive war with Iraq, contends that a recent Supreme Court ruling "harms the President's ability to protect U.S." The court ruled that the Geneva Conventions apply to all U.S. detainees -- even those suspected of terrorism.

The Bush administration set aside Geneva Conventions in order to use techniques amounting to torture to extract information from persons either known or suspected of being involved with terrorists.

During the takeover of the Southern Baptist Convention, Land, like Tomas de Torquemada in an earlier day, was involved in many an inquisition to root heretics out of his church. He didn't burn them at the stake like Torquemada, but he certainly led efforts to turn moderate denominational leaders and missionaries out on the streets. Now we find that Land doesn't appear to be adverse using some of Torquemada's more extreme techniques if his victims have a different faith and are either known to have been or are suspected of being in contact with persons who threaten his country.

The more things change, the more they remain the same.

Fortunately, other Christians and other Baptists have not lost their ethics. ...

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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:38 PM
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1. Southern Baptists - Putting the fear of God into folks since the Civil War
Disclaimer: I am a former Southern Baptist Fundamentalist minister.

Fear is what drives the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention): Fear of modernism, fear of feminism, fear of liberty, fear of secularism, fear of change itself.

Every Sunday in churches across this nation men stand in the pulpits and do their best to put fear into the hearts of the listeners. If they are successful they'll know when they issue the "Altar Call" and ask for people to step out publicly to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior, avoiding the merciless fires of Hell. If they aren't successful they will not stop, but will try tack after tack in hopes of finding some way to scare another soul into heaven. "Better to be scared into heaven than comforted to hell."

Make no mistake, if they think that God is calling for the death of all atheists (moi), all secular humanists or any other "enemy" of the church, then they have plenty of biblical evidence to support them. And they will boldly "step out on faith" to carry out God's will.

And if you even think of questioning their ability to hear God's voice, well that just means that you must be an enemy.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:48 PM
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2. I grew up in SoBapt churches in OK and TX ... left when in grad
school in the 60s.

I was in the Baptist Student Union in college in TX. My college and the BSU there was very liberal; at times SoBapts from other schools who talked with us got very upset.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 02:49 PM
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3. Interesting observation
After hearing comments from people who apparently know how the fundies system works it makes one wonder if they will be more afraid of hell after death or the hell that might take over the country with the bush leadership stirring up the Whole World, like more terrorist attacks, be it from our own or foreign.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:00 PM
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4. A very, very severe group of people now control the SBU. They
are despicable, mean and dangerous. I say this also as a former Southern Baptist; I have been an Episcopalian now for 40 years. What a great church.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-13-06 03:20 PM
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5. I'd love to debate that jackass
HOW, exactly, does the ruling harm the Emperor's ability to protect the US? Explain that to me.
Ringo
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-14-06 10:44 AM
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6. S. Baptists split from American Baptists over slavery and didn't see fit
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