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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 08:19 AM
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Beheading, Hooding, and Waterboarding: CIA Torture in Vietnam, Latin Ameri
Beheading, Hooding, and Waterboarding: CIA Torture in Vietnam, Latin America, and Iraq
By Nick Gier, Citizen Journalist 7-15-06

Beheading, Hooding, and Water Boarding:
CIA Torture in Vietnam, Latin America, and Iraq
by Nick Gier

The weak will do anything to stop the pain;
The strong will resist until the end.
--a Roman jurist on torture

The gloves are coming off . . . Col. Boltz has made it clear that we want these individuals broken.
--Abu Ghraib military intelligence e-mail, August 17, 2003


In 1966 the CIA launched the Phoenix Project, a program designed to destroy the South Vietnamese Communists, better known as the Viet Cong. Specially designed torture chambers were constructed in all 44 provinces and rape of women suspects, electric shock, water torture, and hanging from ceilings were standard methods during interrogations.

Of the tens of thousands of South Vietnamese detained, at least 20,000 were summarily executed. Copying a Viet Cong practice, the severed heads of those executed were frequently displayed in the villages. Even more common was collecting the ears of dead Communist troops.

The principal incentive the CIA used for arresting suspects was money, and it was said that paid informants "often lied and set-up innocent people." Many detainees at Guantanamo were turned in by Afghan bounty hunters who were paid off by coalition officers. In night raids on Iraqi homes all males were routinely detained, but only 10-15 percent, admits intelligence officer Jose Garcia, are of any intelligence value.
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http://www.newwest.net/index.php/main/article/9930/
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checkmate1947 Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 09:36 AM
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1. Stick with what you know,,
your piece on what took place in Vietnam, with the phoenix project was without a doubt the fartherest thing from the truth I have ever seen, Stick with what you know, some of us were there.
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Sinti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 09:51 AM
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2. There are a bunch of official documents on this at the Memory Hole
link:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/phoenix/

Scary stuff to me :scared:
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 10:01 AM
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3. Thank you, Sinti. This looks very worthwhile.
Looking forward to looking through it carefully.

I've heard about this program many times: really need to learn something about it.

Greatly appreciate the link.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-16-06 11:54 PM
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-17-06 01:02 PM
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5. Sure glad to see this. Saving it for files immediately.
So much to think about here. It's overwhelming.

Have heard about this so often before, and happy for the chance to see it revealed more completely. The treatment of the "enemy" is so similar, and that war was based on lies, as well.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:34 AM
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8. "CIA and Operation Phoenix in Vietnam" (same article / different link)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:49 PM
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9. Thank you for providing the article with a new link.
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 03:51 PM by Judi Lynn
Very important material. Should be exposed, rather than denied.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:25 PM
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10. The mods were absolutely correct to delete my first link
But McGehee himself is credible
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4bucksagallon Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:05 AM
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6. not affiliated with the phoenix project but practiced in Nam.....
Cutting off ears, fingers, booby trapping bodies, mutilating dead bodies and even cutting off breasts of women to be used as tobacco pouches, dousing prisoners with flamable liquids and flicking your zippo. If you think this isn't true welllllllllll you were not there.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 09:15 AM
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7. War Zones lose all shreds of humanity - War is TERRORISM!
Edited on Tue Jul-18-06 09:17 AM by ShortnFiery
There is no such thing as a humanitarian war. :grr:

On Edit: I agree with your assessment because I remember Vietnam.
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