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AuntiePinko (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 01:11 PM Original message |
How should I deal with nasty atheists? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Good analogy. |
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southpaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. Bad Analogy |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. A better analogy; I was standing at the roulette |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
22. No further proof than your reply is needed. n/t |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. You need to get off your high horse |
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southpaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:14 AM Response to Reply #22 |
106. Shain... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #106 |
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southpaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:26 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Just as I expected... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:49 AM Response to Reply #6 |
71. All Ideaologies are open to criticism! |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Madalyn Murray O’Hair. She's the atheist they found dismembered right? |
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shrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:51 AM Response to Reply #77 |
109. O'Hair was killed for money |
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erknm (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #77 |
118. Interesting conclusion, but wrong |
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Bette Noir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. What the...??? |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. No further proof than your reply is needed. n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Deleted sub-thread |
jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-31-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
140. the only thing i could find that could possibly merit deletion was... |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. Your analogy is the root of the problem |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
70. It's a sign of his or her own weak faith, nothing more. |
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Evoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Um..thats a very prejudiced response |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
64. Untrue |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:25 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. I do so love how people assume that all atheists |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:44 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. That's just it |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. You know, I would rather prefer it if you were more polite. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:10 AM Response to Reply #1 |
76. Thanks for calling all atheists liars and murders. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
3. Auntie Pinko, as a converted-atheist, I think there are some who would |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. oft-cited definition of 'faith' |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. But aren't you assuming there's something there to understand? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Even a negative needs to be comprehended |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Is it a negative, or just an "imaginary friend"? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. The OP agrees with you: "atheists believe there is nothing there to |
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Hamlette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
69. US v Seeger |
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RealAle (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:22 AM Response to Reply #10 |
92. faith |
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jahyarain (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
129. welcome to DU! |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 08:39 AM Response to Reply #92 |
137. No faith |
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goondogger (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Ummm, no |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
39. Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. |
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dunn (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
131. Faith is borrowed from the outside. Trust, is something from within. |
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abester (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. Indeed, and it is time to move to something greater |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. She didn't say that atheism was a faith. She said that atheism was |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. self-delete (dupe) |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent ! |
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adamuu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Perfect. |
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man4allcats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
8. There really is no excuse for rudeness either from |
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galileo3000 (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Auntie Pinko is The reason I joined DU |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. And where does this person encounter all those 'nasty' atheists? |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. I remember working for a woman who was appalled |
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LittleOne (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
103. I worked with her sister... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:51 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. In person occasionally |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:56 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. It's not necessarily in blogs. I've known people first-hand... |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
44. My own personal experience is that the obnoxious relilgious are all too |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Certainly, there ARE many more obnoxious religious folks than there are |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 06:35 AM Response to Reply #49 |
87. And the religious right is larger than the religious left. |
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PegDAC (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Exactly. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:59 AM Response to Reply #12 |
110. Well, sometimes we run into nastiness right here at DU |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:43 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. You are of course right that your beliefs deserve tolerance... until |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Excellent points |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. Right, and I forgot to mention holidays... |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 06:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
130. That is another irritation with me |
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jilln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:43 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. HAHAHA! |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #114 |
123. Oh, I agree. No one should force their religion on anyone |
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mayfire62 (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. Great advice Auntie |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
19. I'm an agnostic -- but I have NEVER EVER met an atheist... |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. "Atheists wouldn't ever do that" -- MY ASS!!! |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. RE: "Atheists wouldn't ever do that" -- MY ASS!!! |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. Nazis and Communists most certainly did kill in the name of non-belief |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:15 AM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Nazis were absolutely Christian. Communists definitely had beliefs. |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Which nazis? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 06:22 AM Response to Reply #83 |
86. On Nazism & Christianity from Wikipedia: |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:03 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. You can't have it both ways... |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 02:59 PM Response to Reply #90 |
125. Well it's definitely true that states can create suffering w/o God. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:53 AM Response to Reply #83 |
97. Hitler's beliefs are complicated |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:09 AM Response to Reply #97 |
102. I think he was at least born and/or raised catholic... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:02 AM Response to Reply #28 |
72. Isnt that Hypnosis? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:47 AM Response to Reply #72 |
115. Actually, there are a couple more there -- |
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byronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Point sorta taken. However -- |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I loved your example of Al Gore -- |
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cyborg_jim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 08:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
136. Not the problem |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. Another reason I liked your response.... |
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springhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
73. I am sure there are athiests who are like that...... |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
85. I agree. But they ARE out there! :) |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Couple things |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. Couple things back at ya |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:46 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. I would certainly agree |
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noobie2 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:29 PM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Gott Mit Uns |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I'm a lapsed Lutheran and well aware that Brother Martin |
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noobie2 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I find it no different than what is happening today with Bush. |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 05:39 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. Neither do I. As I typed the lines about nazis using a religion they |
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markbark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #52 |
96. Hey! |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:57 AM Response to Reply #52 |
99. Means nothing |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
67. Always somebody has to pull out the Stalin card |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:05 AM Response to Reply #67 |
91. Actually, I agree completely... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:44 AM Response to Reply #91 |
94. I think a Christian making those distinctions would be wrong |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #94 |
100. as my "but..." might have suggested, I agree |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #91 |
101. They'd be wrong |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:21 AM Response to Reply #101 |
112. Excellent Crusades info! Yowza. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. It's my pet subject |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #67 |
132. He did try to enforce atheism in the Soviet Union, though, |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
75. The Nazis were praciticing Christians. |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 04:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
128. Hah! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. I've never met that kind of atheist in person, either, |
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Random_Australian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 11:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. pnwmom, if you would not mind stirring the pot, I would like that. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #19 |
95. They are out there |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
121. Fear |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
25. NASTY ATHEISTS!!!! |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
27. The idea of an all powerful being; |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. Speaking of dealing with something for the X,XXXth time |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Yep, that one always gets me, too.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:44 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Absence of a belief system makes you an |
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Robeson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. No, I was speaking of the word "atheist" in it's broadest sense... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 07:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Depends on your definition of atheism. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. Allow me to retort. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 06:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
89. Again, that's by your definition, which isn't universally accepted. |
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raggedcompany (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. I am atheist, but speak only for myself. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:49 AM Response to Reply #46 |
108. I couldn't believe how much god talk there was in my work place |
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GOPBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm a Christian, and I'll say that I see more Christians being intolerant |
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rambler_american (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
54. The problem with religion... |
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noobie2 (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. as an atheist myself |
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TwentyFive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
56. Thanks Auntie Pinko! Rove pays trolls to visit DU and start flame wars |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:36 AM Response to Reply #56 |
81. I don't think Rove is hiring atheists to come to DU. |
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catbert836 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
57. One problem, Auntie |
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p12psicop (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #57 |
68. You're right |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
105. athieism CAN be a belief |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 10:17 AM Response to Reply #105 |
116. Speaking as an atheist, I would flip those two definition. |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 10:46 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Fine |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 11:53 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Agree. |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:48 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Only if not believing in unicorns is the same level of belief |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:44 PM Response to Reply #122 |
134. I'm not saying they're the same LEVEL of belief |
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danhan (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-27-06 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
58. Bravo. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 01:54 AM Response to Original message |
74. There is no such thing as an ethically privileged epistemology |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 03:18 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Reminds me of Badiou's book on Ethics. /nt |
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Somawas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 06:45 AM Response to Original message |
88. An interesting ramble, but |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
93. A question about fairy tales. |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:11 AM Response to Reply #93 |
104. I did a poll in the Religion and Theology forum trying to find the line |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 08:27 AM Response to Reply #93 |
107. Totally off-topic but... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
98. Strangely, I can find descriptions of God as both 'invisible' and 'friend' |
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neebob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-28-06 09:19 AM Response to Original message |
111. I have a question, too, Auntie. |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
135. Interesting...I think that people should show respect for beliefs |
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raging moderate (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. Hitler was reviving the ancient Germanic pagan religion |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-29-06 06:49 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. Welcome to DU! If you want to look at things... |
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