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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:26 PM
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Bush and Condi clash over Israel; president overrules her for the first ti
http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Condi4.htm

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has become increasingly dismayed over President Bush's support for Israel to continue its war with Hezbollah.

State Department sources said Ms. Rice has been repeatedly stymied in her attempts to pressure Israel to end strikes against Hezbollah strongholds in Lebanon. The sources said the secretary's trip to the Middle East last week was torpedoed by the Israeli air strike of a Lebanese village in which 25 people were killed.

"I've never seen her so angry," an aide said.

The U.S. response to the Israeli-Hezbollah war was said to have divided both the administration as well as the family of President George W. Bush. At the same time, it marked the first time since Ms. Rice became secretary of state that the president has overruled her.

"For the last 18 months, Condi was given nearly carte blanche in setting foreign policy guidelines," a senior government source familiar with the issue said. "All of a sudden, the president has a different opinion and he wants the last word."
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:28 PM
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1. So does this mean she will no longer pleasure her "husband" with the
Freedom Arts?
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:29 PM
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"strikes against Hezbollah strongholds"? More like residential areas.
What if someone were attacking "Republican" or "Democratic" Party strongholds here in the U.S.?
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:29 PM
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2. So she's not a TOTAL sellout??
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:29 PM
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3. So she's not a TOTAL sellout??
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:30 PM
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4. So? She thought she was one of the guys and now she knows
that she is up to her ass in alligators? Ummmm....a moron could see this train wreck coming
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:34 PM
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5. Never heard of Insight Mag. And is this dubious?...
On the left of the page:

Sites We're Watching:
Washington Times
Drudge Report
Human Events Online
American Spectator
National Review Online
Breitbart.com

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:01 AM
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9. They are Moonies
:tinfoilhat:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:23 PM
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18. not a total sell out but is the ghost of Collin Powell--walking the line!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:38 PM
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6. This is a miracle! Be sure you're wearing clean underwear,
we may find ourselves flying away to the rapture any moment! Don't want to zoom by anyone wearing ragged skivs in case you're wearing a skirt!



Thank you, jeezus.


Is it possible Condoleeza Rice is going to recover her honor? It only takes one step at a time. Don't panic, Condoleeza.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:40 PM
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7. The Rapture has been penciled in for August 22nd
WSJ: Scholar Warns Iran's Ahmadinejad May Have 'Cataclysmic Events' In Mind For August 22
Tue Aug 08 2006 10:22:35 ET

In a WALL STREET JOURNAL op-ed Tuesday, Princeton's Bernard Lewis writes: "There is a radical difference between the Islamic Republic of Iran and other governments with nuclear weapons. This difference is expressed in what can only be described as the apocalyptic worldview of Iran's present rulers."

"In Islam as in Judaism and Christianity, there are certain beliefs concerning the cosmic struggle at the end of time -- Gog and Magog, anti-Christ, Armageddon, and for Shiite Muslims, the long awaited return of the Hidden Imam, ending in the final victory of the forces of good over evil, however these may be defined."

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "and his followers clearly believe that this time is now, and that the terminal struggle has already begun and is indeed well advanced. It may even have a date, indicated by several references by the Iranian president to giving his final answer to the US about nuclear development by Aug. 22," which this year corresponds "to the 27th day of the month of Rajab of the year 1427. This, by tradition, is the night when many Muslims commemorate the night flight of the prophet Muhammad on the winged horse Buraq, first to 'the farthest mosque,' usually identified with Jerusalem, and then to heaven and back (c.f., Koran XVII.1).

"This might well be deemed an appropriate date for the apocalyptic ending of Israel and if necessary of the world. It is far from certain that Mr. Ahmadinejad plans any such cataclysmic events precisely for Aug. 22. But it would be wise to bear the possibility in mind."

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash4.htm

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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:43 PM
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14. Oh my God is that creepy.
I hope that is only right-wing paranoid fantasy. Or that no one acts on that on either side of the equation.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-08-06 10:41 PM
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8. I bet this is BS. They want Rice to look good. Think they might want to
run her in 2008. Repugs are running from George Bush. More propaganda.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 09:23 AM
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10. BINGO!
They see this as an opportunity to distance her somewhat from her boss. It's all BS.

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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:40 PM
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12. Never, Never trust anything they say!!!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 12:10 PM
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11. great--they're in divide mode-so let's conquer in nov '06
I would not want that snake condi as an enemy-watch out chimpy!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 01:38 PM
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13. Nick Burns for Sec of State
She should resign. The world knows how ineffective she is.
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megatherium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 05:46 PM
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15. This is when having a President who is weak intellectually
really hurts us. The assholes who decided back in 1999 that they could regain the White House by running a popular simpleton (who would appeal to red state suburbinites) have a hell of a lot to answer for.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:17 PM
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16. she is actually scowling at her hub...on the pic at the site. But she scow
ls so often it is hard to tell for sure.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:20 PM
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17. they thought it would be slam dunk! again! Bush has been dismayed...


......Mr. Bush's support for Israel has also struck a chord with most Americans. A Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll reported that 59 percent supported Israel in the war against Hezbollah and only 13 percent of respondents backed an immediate ceasefire.

But the sources said Mr. Bush has been dismayed by the Israeli failure to defeat Hezbollah. They said several high-ranking Republicans have expressed amazement at the plodding Israeli advance into Lebanon.

"One Jewish friend of Bush actually called up a senior Israeli official and began yelling, 'What the hell's going on here,'" a source said. "'Are you going to fight or what?'"
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-09-06 06:48 PM
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19. She's angry?
She knows what her "husband" is like, and she's aided & abetted his behavior from the first day he was "appointed" president by the SOTU. Furthermore, given her past actions regarding the war on Iraq and her comments about "mushroom clouds", she has a lot of nerve being upset about anything.

Nonetheless, as much as I loathe Condi, her ideas are certainly more palatable than the Idiot-in-Chief regarding the current situation in Israel. . .
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