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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:37 AM
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PNACZIs in our Midst FYI - In case you had not seen this one
Edited on Tue Dec-02-03 11:39 AM by Skinner
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/24/opinion/main585328.shtml

An Administration Of One
by Robert Kagan and William Kristol
© 2003 CBS Broadcasting Inc. and The Weekly Standard

Nov. 24, 2003 -- When George W. Bush first entered the White House, the conventional wisdom was that his inexperience and lack of vision in foreign policy would be compensated for by his wise and experienced cabinet. This may or may not have been a reasonable view at the time. Right now, however, it is clear that the most visionary and, yes, the wisest and most capable foreign policy-maker in the Bush administration is the president himself. Let's hope the team around him proves willing and capable of fulfilling his clear and historic grand strategy.

This past week has been an extraordinary one for the president. His visit to Great Britain, portrayed by the press beforehand as an impending disaster, was instead a resounding success. The spectacle of anti-Bush and anti-American protesters had a predictable effect on a sensible British public. Polls in Britain show rising support for the war in Iraq and a growing appreciation for the role played by the United States in the world. Bush's speech in London won well-deserved praise even from European critics -- more so, actually, than from many of his American critics, who have long since abandoned the pretense of objectivity.

Bush struck exactly the right balance in reaching his hand across the Atlantic and seeking cooperation in the war on terrorism, but without pulling back from his own determination to wage that war forcefully. He began to dispel the label of unilateralism that has been unfairly pinned on him, while still asking Europeans to wake up to the realities of a dangerous world they have been trying so hard to ignore. Bush might be well advised to give more such speeches in Europe. (We have stopped expecting his secretary of state actually to go to European capitals to make the case for the president's policies.)

In his London speech, the president continued to advance what has come to be the centerpiece of his global grand strategy -- the promotion of liberal democracy abroad, and especially in the Middle East, where freedom has been most wanting and where the West's record has been most dismal. This was the third speech in less than nine months in which the president made the promotion of democracy his central theme (the first being his speech at the American Enterprise Institute back in February before the Iraq war began, the second his speech to the National Endowment for Democracy earlier this fall). There can no longer be any doubt that whatever Republican "realist" inclinations the president may have inherited from his father and his father's advisers when he took office, he has now abandoned that failed and narrow view and raised the torch previously held high by Ronald Reagan -- and before that by John F. Kennedy and Harry Truman.

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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:42 AM
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1. My local newspaper clearly got the memo
They were trumpeting Bush's crusade for democracy in last Sunday main editorial. The praised "the courage of his convictions".

To which I fired of a missive asking why, if he holds the courage of his convictions, he had to use a massive campaign of outright lies and subtle deceptions to get his crusade for democracy started?

Another though: If these guys love "liberal democracy" so, why do they hate the liberals who try to practice it at home?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:46 AM
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2. what else was there to expect from them?
the truth is something different from what these guys know.
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:03 AM
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4. They are so full of shit
should call a plumber and flush the wingnuts into the cesspool they have created. Teach them a lesson.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 08:58 AM
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3. funny that they need to prop up Bush because he cannot stand on
his own. There is a symptom of mental illness called "delusions of grandeur"--the trip to Britian was a resounding success is doublespeak--course it was a success--he landed, saw the queen, got photo ops that he wanted, or someone wanted--and left--if you leave out all the other information on how he had to stayed secluded in the palace, could not address Parliament out of fear of being hissed and booed, and the destruction of the Queens' grounds like a rude guest, you can call the thing a "success" just depends upon your definition of success--and that is the common modus operani of the entire Bush adminisration as well as the accepted, fallacious mode of his followers. What pitiful little liars.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:24 AM
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5. bushco and the corporate media have
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 10:24 AM by xchrom
in effect surrounded the american public.
for their part -- the public have responded with nationalism, extreme religous views and ignorance that must surely surpass even the best expectations of those in control.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 06:19 AM
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11. that's as depressing a thought as I've read in a long time, but spot-on
and.....I don't know whether it's getting better or worse.

scares the crap out of me
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:38 AM
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6. These are the people planning the next war
...and world domination. They are scheming, plotting and planning the next war to make their victims free! Starting wars, invading and bombing people in the service of "democratic" ideals. Remember the current war is an abject failure, so they need to start another.

If you are going to lie tell a big one. These "neo con" people loathe liberal democracy. They have nothing but contempt for it and the interest of common people anywhere.

They are venal elitist scum.
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Ardee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:53 AM
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7. what great humorists these two prove themselves
This could have been written for The Onion or for Saturday Night Live's Emily Latella, Oh never mind!
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:00 AM
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8. Bush ... visionary, wise, capable foreign policy leader?
Do these neocons really believe their own propaganda?

When it comes to Bush and foreign policy, his main characteristics are:

IGNORANCE
The man simply doesn't know, or understand, the complex world we live in. And the supposedly intelligent neocons in his administration have self-imposed blinders, resulting in the debacle of postwar Iraq.

MANICHAEN VIEW
Bush sees everything in black&white, good&evil ... democracy=good, terrorism=bad. Of course, but due to his ignorance he's creating more terrorism and sabotaging what chances there may have been to install a stable and lasting democracy in Iraq.

CORPORATE GREED
First and foremost in everything Bush does is corprate cronyism. Whether it be raping the environment at home or selling Iraq at cut rate prices, the interests of corporate fat cats outweigh the interests of the American, or the Iraqi, people.

HUBRIS
When it comes to dilomacy, Bush is an insensitive bully. His grammer school report card must have read doesn't work or play well with others. His administration used blackmail and bribes to gain support for his illegal invasion, then heaped abuse on valuable allies when they stood on principle and refused. "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists". Yeah, right.

MENDACITY
Bush wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass. He and his administration have told more lies about more issues of huge importance than any in American history. If the man actually believes what he says, then he is mentally unfit for office, let alone a visionary, wise, capable foreign policy leader.

Here's an example for your enjoyment. Please read:
http://www.arabnews.com/services/print/print.asp?artid=30536&d=19&m=8&y=2003&hl=Idiot%20or%20Liar?%20Either%20Way,%20Bush%20Is%20Unfit%20for%20Office
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 06:44 PM
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9. Great rebuttal
Right to the point!
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Jester_11218 Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:49 PM
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10. Know your neocons - Gallery here
PNAC is the president. Bush was the face for the election. Do you think he was sitting around thinking about foreign policy in the 90s? He couldn't name a foreign country!

http://tvnewslies.org/html/pnac_neo-con_artists.html
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 08:52 PM
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12. seventhson
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
news source.


Thank you.

NYer99
DU Moderator
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Classical_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-01-03 11:04 PM
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13. The neocons like air heads
because they are malleable. They were the main supporters of Dan Quayle.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-03 12:08 AM
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14. This is great . . .
. . . material for a stand up comic.
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