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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 12:31 AM
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Expecting U.S. Help, Sent to Guantánamo
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/15/us/15gitmo.html?ex=1318564800&en=d4e9adf145a40c44&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

Abdul Rahim Al Ginco thought he was saved when the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and overthrew the Taliban regime.

Mr. Ginco, a college student living in the United Arab Emirates, had gone to Afghanistan in 2000 after running away from his strict Muslim father. He was soon imprisoned by the Taliban, and tortured by operatives of Al Qaeda until, he said, he falsely confessed to being a spy for Israel and the United States.

But rather than help Mr. Ginco return home, American soldiers detained him again. Nearly five years later, he remains in the United States military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba — in part, it appears, on the strength of a propaganda videotape made by his torturers.

“This was a 22-year-old kid who was brutally tortured,” one of Mr. Ginco’s American lawyers, Stephen R. Sady, said. “And instead of being liberated, he has endured four and a half years of additional confinement.”

A bill signed into law by President Bush last December requires the Pentagon to determine if information being used to hold a detainee has been obtained by coercion and “the probative value (if any)” of such information. Another law passed by Congress last month would ban the use of statements made under torture from the military tribunals that are to be used to prosecute some Guantánamo detainees.

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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 02:37 AM
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1. Why was this topic moved? It's not an editorial. It's a current news story
Not really asking you, RamboLiberal. Just wondering what the mods were thinking.

It's a scary, disgusting news story.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 03:55 AM
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2. Damned hard to figure this one out! It IS Late Breaking News, I think, too
The last paragraph is a killer:
Mr. Ginco’s lawyers, who are federal public defenders in Oregon, are contesting his detention on the grounds that he could not have fought against the United States after it declared a war on terrorism because he was being held by the Taliban as an American spy.
How the hell could this happen?

Oh, yeah. Republicans. Damn them all to the deepest pit of hell.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:55 AM
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4. It's also a legitimate question
This article couldn't me more timely and it's not an op ed piece, it is news - so current - this poor fellow has been a victim in so many ways, now he could be a victim of the new law the idiots passed. :(
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-15-06 09:04 AM
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3. No use expecting reason to be used here
Mr. Ginco’s lawyers, who are federal public defenders in Oregon, are contesting his detention on the grounds that he could not have fought against the United States after it declared a war on terrorism because he was being held by the Taliban as an American spy.


That sounds far too reasonable a thought for it to be accepted by Bush.
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